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PSA said "You should retire a set if you have no plans to upgrade the set."

carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
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This is an FYI, I hope it helps.

I spent the morning re-reading some of the THE RULES OF THE GAME and came across a quote that many of you may NOT be aware of. I found the contents of this paragraph to be rather interesting.

You should retire a set from Current status when you have sold the set or you have no plans to upgrade the set. If your set was at least 90% complete at the time of deletion, it will remain in the All Time Finest category and will be listed with a "viewable" status. If you still own the cards in a retired set that was 90% complete at the time of retirement and the set remains in the All Time Finest category, those same certification numbers should not be re-used by you in a new set you may start in the same category. Should you wish to re-use those cards, please contact customer service first to delete the All Time Finest set from the registry.

Now I know of at least one collector that has done this... If you still own the cards in a retired set that was 90% complete at the time of retirement and the set remains in the All Time Finest category, those same certification numbers should not be re-used by you in a new set you may start in the same category.

I'm not sure how I feel about this so I wanted some of your thoughts on these rules.

If you would like to re-read some of the rules Click Here.

Carlos

Comments

  • sixdartsixdart Posts: 821 ✭✭
    Is B J the person to contact regarding this issue?

  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    that explains what happened to my 64 Giants set!

    I was 100% and #3 all time - then decide to take out about ten to sell off
    and replace later....

    when I deleted them - they came out of my all-time set too!

    I thought about adding them back - then deleting the set (to preserve it)
    then starting a new set - but according to these rules I can't becuase
    I would be using the 50 of 60 of the original set.

    hmmmmmm
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  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    Is B J the person to contact regarding this issue?

    Yes, I believe so.

    Carlos
  • pinhighpinhigh Posts: 185
    The thing that I do not like about the situation involving BigKid is that, to the casual observer, it would appear that he never completed the set, when in fact at one point it was 100% complete. BigKid, if I were you and I didn't plan on replacing those cards or upgrading at any later date, I might would re-add those certification numbers and then delete the set. At least that way, you would be able to display your set on the registry in the way it was at it's height. The downside to this would be that you will not be able to upgrade later.

    I always felt that sets listed under the all-time finest listing but not the current finest listing were sets that were sold or split. I guess if others play by the rules that carkim directed us to, we could no longer use that logic.
    "We don't own these cards, we just hold them for awhile." -- Jay of Quality Cards
  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    The reason I posted this is because I'm afraid that someone may get blindsided with this rule.

    Here is a "what if..." scenario.

    Mike Castaldi sold about half of his 1972 Topps Baseball set. If he would have deleted his "set" instead of deleting each "individual card", his set would have remained in the All-Time Finest category. Not only would his set deserved to be there (Over 90% Complete) but I feel it should always remained there.

    Unfortunately, if Mike wanted to, at a later date, relist his unsold cards and start rebuilding his set, PSA would have deleted his All-Time Finest set.

    I guess this rule makes some sense but it could cause some dumbfoundedness in the future with an unsuspecting collector.

    Carlos
  • AlfiewtAlfiewt Posts: 337 ✭
    I understand the requirement not to reuse the same certification numbers in a new set. If not for the rule, someone could build an all time finest set, delet it and relist it with one different card, then have two all time finest sets. They could do this over and over again and have 100's of sets list by just changing one card each time.
    My Don Mattingly and Dock Ellis cards
  • BigKidAtHeartBigKidAtHeart Posts: 1,799 ✭✭
    what happens if I have an "All-time Finest" set and I Delete it to sell
    (which means I retain the set in the "All-time Finest" rankings...

    and the person who buys it, lists it too?

    Doesn't that create an exact duplicate set in the registry -
    that would TIE mine in the "All-time Finest"??

    that would be messed up, but what is really fair here?
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  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    I don't like the idea of being able to register "any card you have ever owned". I think your set on the Registry should reflect a point in time, not a culmination of all your best cards ever.

    If you want to retire a set -- you shouldn't be planning on re-acquiring or re-registering those cards in a year or more. If you sell cards from your set -- and it is still a set in progress, I don't care if it was complete or not; if you are still working on it, show it without those cards you sold. You can't have it both ways, in my opinion.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • vorthianvorthian Posts: 38 ✭
    << You should retire a set from Current status when you have sold the set or you have no plans to upgrade the set. If your set was at least 90% complete at the time of deletion >>

    I think for the older sets, especially the pre-30's - the percentage should drop. Some of these cards are just too hard to find.

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