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1980 Henderson... Abort Mission.

I have been trying for 7+ years now to get the first 10/10 1980 Topps Rickey Henderson. But the dream has come to an end - It's not going to happen and it is getting ridiculously expensive to keep trying.

I would love to hear what other people think about these 3 cards. The (2) autos were submitted within the last year. These are the PSA Scans.

Option (A)

Option (B)

For good measure. A non-auto.

Option (C)

I am curious what people think as far as... (with an understanding that scans have their limitations)

  1. What grade would you estimate for these cards?
  2. Which card is the best overall?

What techniques does everyone use to review their cards before submission? What are you looking for? I do occasionally get a 10 on a vintage 60s,70s,80s card from PSA, but, while I'm happy, I wouldn't be able to explain why this ding is OK for a 10 and that ding means it's an 8.


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    RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭✭
    edited February 15, 2024 4:57PM

    Pics are too small to really tell, but A has touched corners on the back, so hell no.. And of course we can't know the surface, that is probably the #1 reason many seemingly perfect looking ones don't hit..... C is slightly offcenter top to bottom, which would be ok for a "normal" card, but not a Henderson Rookie in today's PSA grading world. Might even have the slightest of tilts.

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    bgrbgr Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    I wish I was able to provide better images. My printer/scanner isn't spectacular (HP M477fnw).

    My perspective isn't that any of these should (or shouldn't) be a 10 -- they all have their blemishes. If I came off as... I deserve 10s on everything that wasn't my intent. I enjoy talking about cards with people other than my wife and hearing their opinions. If there's a secret sauce to presenting images which can be more easily reviewed I'm here to learn - whether I am capable... TBD.

    On (A). That corner got chipped (blue paper peeled back) when I put it in the penny sleeve after signing. Usually when a mistake is made I know the guy who made it.

    On (C). I think it's how it's sitting in the holder in the PSA scan. I agree on the centering.

    On (B). The top corners are similar to the corner you pointed out on (A).

    I chose (A) and (B) because they show a subtle difference in vertical centering - in a way which I've never been sure which is closer to optimal.

    I do enjoy having high dual grade items in my collection, but the ones which I have pulled, had signed in person, and slabbed hold a very special place for me.

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    CakesCakes Posts: 3,462 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My opinion is damn it must be nice sitting on some amazing signed Henderson Rookies in PSA 9 grade. Getting a PSA 10/10 now days is almost impossible, you have a better chance of lassoing a Unicorn. >:)

    I was glad to give up on my quest for a PSA 9 or 10 Jerry Rice Rookie years ago. I can only imagine how expensive it would be to attempt now.

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    baseballfanbaseballfan Posts: 5,451 ✭✭✭

    A&B are beautiful!!!

    my favorite baseball card


    collecting RAW Topps baseball cards 1952 Highs to 1972. looking for collector grade (somewhere between psa 4-7 condition). let me know what you have, I'll take it, I want to finish sets, I must have something you can use for trade.

    looking for Topps 71-72 hi's-62-53-54-55-59, I have these sets started

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    RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,490 ✭✭✭✭

    Well obviously the only reason that (C) is a 10 is because it was graded so long ago when standards were a 10 did not have to be perfect (or rather could be within the terms specified on the website of what can be a PSA 10) and re-holdered into a newer slab. Card would probably be a PSA 8.5 today!

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    FirstBeardFirstBeard Posts: 467 ✭✭✭

    I think the autograph placement and inscription on (A) are beautiful.

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    FWIW I always have a different instinct when it comes to signed vintage cards; they don't strike me as cards that need to be absolutely 99.99% flawless. What matters to me is the quality of the signature.
    But yeah on the penny sleeve damage, I wonder how cards survive the dozens of rounds of cracking and regrading that some put them through.

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    PatriotTradingPatriotTrading Posts: 191 ✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2024 12:10AM

    Damn man, C is a PSA 10? Showing off a $125k card like it's 1989. Haha

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    4Boston4Boston Posts: 263 ✭✭✭
    edited February 23, 2024 2:41AM

    Happy for you that you aborted the mission. Very difficult task.

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    bgrbgr Posts: 208 ✭✭✭

    @4Boston said:
    Happy for you that you aborted the mission. Very difficult task.


    It was mostly tongue-in-cheek. My expectations were always reasonably low... approaching zero as it were.

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