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GTG 1902 - O Morgan Dollar GRADE REVEALED

zrnumismaticszrnumismatics Posts: 49 ✭✭
edited February 6, 2024 2:48PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Thoughts on the grade on this coin?
I liked the clean cheek.
Two lightings



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  • OwnerofawheatiehordeOwnerofawheatiehorde Posts: 1,458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66

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  • Zach98Zach98 Posts: 54 ✭✭✭

    63

  • blitzdudeblitzdude Posts: 5,294 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65 RGDS!

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,466 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 6:00PM

    Seems AU cleaned. Looks Dullish - from lots of dips? Lt wear seems evident. Face looks like has an X near the nose. Appears soft over the ear. The first lighting it looks horrible the second shows wear on eagle reverse.

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  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

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  • ajaanajaan Posts: 17,030 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66


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  • 124Spider124Spider Posts: 799 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not possible for me to make a decent guess from those photos. The first two show absolutely no luster, and they do show blemishes on high points. And perhaps there are signs of wear. The last two show "shiny," but the obverse has prominent dull place.

    I'd guess high AU, but improperly cleaned; except I said I can't guess on those photos.

    :)

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66

  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 826 ✭✭✭✭

    64

  • Mr_SpudMr_Spud Posts: 4,212 ✭✭✭✭✭

    64

    Mr_Spud

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS65

  • Davidk7Davidk7 Posts: 201 ✭✭✭

    65

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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭✭✭

    MS 65+
    The second set of photos is much preferred to the first.

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  • jp84jp84 Posts: 179 ✭✭✭

    64

  • jfriedm56jfriedm56 Posts: 741 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 722 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2024 3:53AM

    1902-O's come with dull luster. This one has exceptional luster.
    I'd guess an ms 67
    I edited my first post becasue I double checked the images and liked it better than a 66 in the second image.

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nice gem; 65/66.

  • Typical soft strike. Typical low luster. 64+ maybe 65

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 9,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66 nice strike for the date.
    Jim


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  • marcmoishmarcmoish Posts: 6,156 ✭✭✭✭✭

    66 to me too.
    Clean check and surfaces.

  • LeeBoneLeeBone Posts: 4,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe a 66

  • Joe_360Joe_360 Posts: 1,577 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse brings it down, MS64+

  • Just a question for my own education. 1902-o are typicaly weak strike so when determining a grade do you ignore this or not? Do you bump up a 64 that has a strong strike?

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could 67, nice surfaces for the issue.

  • tradedollarnuttradedollarnut Posts: 20,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I like it as a 66+

  • johnny010johnny010 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,681 ✭✭✭✭✭

    65

  • AotearoaAotearoa Posts: 1,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2024 6:35PM
    1. The reverse isn’t 66 but the obverse rules.

    Smitten with DBLCs.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm at 66.

    Collector, occasional seller

  • This graded MS65. Most of y'all were at or close to the grade. In hand, the luster aligns right in between the two different lightings. This is a great example of the importance of understanding the individual characteristics of dates/mints when grading. According to Greysheet: "Like many other New Orleans Mint dollars, the 1902-O is not always very well struck and luster can be iffy, causing many pieces to grade below the Gem threshold. PLs are challenging but obtainable, while DMPLs are rare."
    The luster is a bit lacking - typical of the date - but the clean cheek makes up for that. I agree with PCGS on the grade although I think it's a possible 66 on a different day.

  • ProofCollectionProofCollection Posts: 5,260 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @zrnumismatics said:
    This graded MS65. Most of y'all were at or close to the grade. In hand, the luster aligns right in between the two different lightings. This is a great example of the importance of understanding the individual characteristics of dates/mints when grading. According to Greysheet: "Like many other New Orleans Mint dollars, the 1902-O is not always very well struck and luster can be iffy, causing many pieces to grade below the Gem threshold. PLs are challenging but obtainable, while DMPLs are rare."
    The luster is a bit lacking - typical of the date - but the clean cheek makes up for that. I agree with PCGS on the grade although I think it's a possible 66 on a different day.

    Did you get a Trueview? The hits on the eagle's breast look significant and are probably holding it back the most, IMO, but it's hard to gauge how bad those are.

  • @ProofCollection said:

    @zrnumismatics said:
    This graded MS65. Most of y'all were at or close to the grade. In hand, the luster aligns right in between the two different lightings. This is a great example of the importance of understanding the individual characteristics of dates/mints when grading. According to Greysheet: "Like many other New Orleans Mint dollars, the 1902-O is not always very well struck and luster can be iffy, causing many pieces to grade below the Gem threshold. PLs are challenging but obtainable, while DMPLs are rare."
    The luster is a bit lacking - typical of the date - but the clean cheek makes up for that. I agree with PCGS on the grade although I think it's a possible 66 on a different day.

    Did you get a Trueview? The hits on the eagle's breast look significant and are probably holding it back the most, IMO, but it's hard to gauge how bad those are.

    I purchased this slabbed. The seller said he sent it out himself - but there is no trueview: https://www.pcgs.com/cert/48154340
    I the obverse is a 66 / 67 and due to the hits on the eagle's breast I think the reverse is a 64 /65

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