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Record Prices in Memory Lane's Premier Auction...Impressive!

1958 Willie Mays psa-9 $134,000
1953 Bowman Color Yogi Berra psa-9 $39,500
1954 Jackie Robinson psa-9 $114,000
1955 Willie Mays psa-9 $52,000
1955 Hank Aaron psa-9 $55,375
1956 Ted Williams (Gray Back) psa-9 $53,375
1956 Roberto Clemente (White Back) psa-9 $42,000
1957 Hank Aaron psa-9 $41,825
1959 Willie Mays psa-9 $20,725
1959 Hank Aaron psa-9 $46,200
1960 Willie Mays psa-9 $22,000
1960 Hank Aaron psa-9 $103,300
1962 Gaylord Perry RC psa-9 $26,700
1962 Hank Aaron psa-9 $103,300
1969 Bob Gibson psa-10 $20,700
1970 Bob Gibson psa-10 $9,100
1970 Willie Mays psa-10 $38,000
1971 Nolan Ryan psa-9 $34,400
1971 Willie Mays psa-9 $48,400
1971 Roberto Clemente psa-9 $61,750
1972 Willie Mays psa-10 $22,750
1973 Hank Aaron psa-10 $58,975
1976 Nolan Ryan psa-10 $42,850

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  • olb31olb31 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1976 Ryan at $42,850 incredible - the 1977 sold for $14,000 not long ago. 1981 Topps for $6,600. WOW

    Interesting that Aaron sells for more than Mays on these auctions.

    Thanks for posting.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 252 ✭✭✭

    Our friends up in Canada must see these prices and fall backwards.

    So many long time hobbyists up there are struggling and leaving the hobby, or scaling back.

    Meanwhile the USA hobby engine is loaded with coal and full steam ahead.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 8:34AM

    That’s a lot of records! Hobby is strong…23/120 lots set records.

    mint_only_pls
  • sayheywyosayheywyo Posts: 431 ✭✭✭

    Very impressive. Congrats to the sellers for sure. It appears that Aaron & Mays are doing well. It didn't look like there were a ton of bids---- maybe 30 or so max on lots. Surprised the Brett rookie did as well as it did with the centering it had on the back. $2700 for a Rickey PSA 9 rookie with that high pop, can be had any day under that, and another overproduced UD Griffey 10 over 2K. One of the nicest cards IMO was the 53 Bowman Color Musial. Economy is still ripping for the rich.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 8:55AM

    Agree about the Musial..but it has a very subtle tilt .

    1953 Bowman Color Berra was off centered…but had no stray ink. That is a beautiful set…glad to see it is receiving some love.

    mint_only_pls
  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,255 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    Hobby is strong

    Yep for Cream of the high end, other stuff not so much.

    Unless otherwise specified my posts represent only my opinion, not fact.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:

    @mintonlypls said:
    Hobby is strong

    Yep for Cream of the high end, other stuff not so much.

    the main reason that the 10's sell so good, is supply (i.e. pop report). There are hardly any psa 10's in 60's and early 70's. Plenty of people would love to have a 1972 Willie Mays and people buy them. But since there are 1,394 PSA 8's of them, there value will trickle up and down. Maybe if its perfectly centered it might go up some, but not much. Really the main cards to collect for investment purposes are 8.5's and up.

    the Ryan that sold for $43,000 has a pop of 11, 276 psa 9's and 15 psa 8.5's. Total graded almost 7,000. these are the only cards you can count on going up. 8's and down probably will fall. just way too many of them.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @olb31 said:

    @82FootballWaxMemorys said:

    @mintonlypls said:
    Hobby is strong

    Yep for Cream of the high end, other stuff not so much.

    the main reason that the 10's sell so good, is supply (i.e. pop report). There are hardly any psa 10's in 60's and early 70's. Plenty of people would love to have a 1972 Willie Mays and people buy them. But since there are 1,394 PSA 8's of them, there value will trickle up and down. Maybe if its perfectly centered it might go up some, but not much. Really the main cards to collect for investment purposes are 8.5's and up.

    the Ryan that sold for $43,000 has a pop of 11, 276 psa 9's and 15 psa 8.5's. Total graded almost 7,000. these are the only cards you can count on going up. 8's and down probably will fall. just way too many of them.

    An exception to post war cards is Mickey Mantle...his cards do well in any grade.

    mint_only_pls
  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    Nobody buys baseball cards any longer, they're too expensive.

    😉

    As long as there’s at least one person out there that’ll buy my collection when I’m ready to sell…

  • lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 852 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i was just looking at the past auctions the 1970 topps mays was amazing card. 1971 ryan was really nice also.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BBBrkrr said:

    @stevek said:
    Nobody buys baseball cards any longer, they're too expensive.

    😉

    As long as there’s at least one person out there that’ll buy my collection when I’m ready to sell…

    I'd be happy to buy it, and pay good money for it. That is as long as it's not a garage full of modern junk. 😂

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1970 Mays is worthy of a PSA-10 assessment…but the 1971 Nolan Ryan is badly off- centered top to bottom. It should not be in a PSA-9 holder.

    mint_only_pls
  • BLUEJAYWAYBLUEJAYWAY Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 4, 2024 7:40PM

    These sales should give a jolt to the market. At least for high end buyers. Out of reach for many.

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  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 468 ✭✭✭✭

    They only had 4 football cards for sale, but hooo boy they were some nice ones (and went for equally nice prices).

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    minton

    ryan and mantle always hot

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
  • Copyboy1Copyboy1 Posts: 468 ✭✭✭✭

    I was quite happy with more Hinkle PSA 7 until seeing that 8!

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 252 ✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    Nobody buys baseball cards any longer, they're too expensive.

    😉

    Check out Mark Grace rookie cards for sale on eBay . 🥶
    Plenty of other “junk” items out there.
    Actually people aren’t buying them, they’re too many of them.

  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Vintage baseball HOFers are much healthier than people realize. I have made some bids lately that I expected to win and didn’t - some not even close. This auction is cards above my collecting level - but 9s and 10s selling like this usually bring up 7s and 8s. The rookie cards all have taken hits since the peak, but baseball in the 50s (especially 2nd Year and MVP year cards) seem to be bouncing back to levels much nearer to the peak than seemed likely a year ago. The early 70s (‘70-‘72) seem like they are doing well as are certain years in the 60s (‘60, ‘62, ‘63).

    I was hoping for a much longer downturn so my hobby dollar would buy more. I definitely hope prices do not move up between now and the National.

  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not looking at the actual cards - PSA 9 Mays high number should be way more than ‘55 Aaron. The ‘62 Aaron is not that tough of a card (no idea what the 9 pop report is but there are a lot of nice 8s) - ‘60 Aaron is way tougher but went for the same as the ‘62 (try to find a nice ‘60 8). Lower tier HOF rookies seem like a bargain to me compared to some of the other cards - Perry rookie going for 1/4 of Aaron just doesn’t make sense to me.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2024 8:54AM

    Condition sensitive cards such as 1953 (nameplate) ,1962 (brown border), 1963 (nameplate), and 1971 (black border) in high end grade (8.5 or higher) will always demand a premium. Second year cards especially if it is his first solo card will do well. As far as the 1955 Aaron, I think it is his most beautiful card of the three-year run (1954, 1955, and 1956) of using the same central image is okay going head -to-head with the 1955 Mays. Both are highly desirable….and personally like Aaron swinging the bat as opposed to fielding or Mays sliding into home as the secondary illustration.

    Years down the road…new collectors will want legendary players, and not HOFs like Perry, Niekro, Jenkins, Sutton when the collector might say, “who”.

    mint_only_pls
  • brad31brad31 Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2024 9:29AM

    On the 1955 Aaron vs. Mays - I agree that both are highly desirable but the Mays being from the high number series it is much rarer. Mays has less than half the total 1955 Topps graded than Aaron - the pop on 9 is 28 to 13. Berra, Rizzuto and Snider all sell for much higher than one would think because they are in the high number series (I still need Snider). The Mays used to sell for double the Aaron in the same grade and still sells for 1.5 times the Aaron in an 8. The 2nd card premium has really helped that Aaron bridge the gap but I don’t think a lot of collectors know how much tougher the high numbers are. Both my Aaron and Amaya are 7s and off-center left to right but I paid a lot more for the Mays.

    As far as who is Perry you probably have a point - but I am a collector who specifically focuses on players in the baseball hall of fame. As irrational as it is I suddenly bought Hodges and Minoso cards once they were elected.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it is solid for the grade…but centering precludes a higher grade such as an 8.5.

    mint_only_pls
  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As they say collect who you like. Legendary HOFs will be more desirable…is all that I was saying and ;therefore, demand higher prices for a given grade. And going forward in time…collectors can “relate” better to legends.

    mint_only_pls
  • DarinDarin Posts: 6,224 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lots of off centered 100k cards in that auction. Of course for the people who buy those cards centering doesn’t matter as they’re just buying the label. The 52 mays, 53 mantle is way off center, 58 mays, even the Brett rookie PSA 10 is off center just enough to be distracting.

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  • jraytayjraytay Posts: 104 ✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    Condition sensitive cards such as 1953 (nameplate) ,1962 (brown border), 1963 (nameplate), and 1971 (black border) in high end grade (8.5 or higher) will always demand a premium. Second year cards especially if it is his first solo card will do well. As far as the 1955 Aaron, I think it is his most beautiful card of the three-year run (1954, 1955, and 1956) of using the same central image is okay going head -to-head with the 1955 Mays. Both are highly desirable….and personally like Aaron swinging the bat as opposed to fielding or Mays sliding into home as the secondary illustration.

    Years down the road…new collectors will want legendary players, and not HOFs like Perry, Niekro, Jenkins, Sutton when the collector might say, “who”.

    Years down the road the new collectors of legendary players will only be investors. I agree about the HOFs you listed being 'who?' Toss in Morgan, Palmer, and Billy Williams. I think Carlton's RC is on the fence with collectors as being legendary. Price has been flat for years and a PSA 9 is relatively cheap. Another non-legendary card is the 62 Uecker that is always in demand due to his zany popularity.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,218 ✭✭✭✭✭

    when i look at prices for high grade vintage, i think to myself that either these are new dollars entering the hobby and have not heard about the trimming scandal or veteran collectors sure have short memories...

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 885 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've never understood the prices on the Carlton rookie. Good year for scarcity and he was probably the best lefty before Randy came along. He was really good and dominant, but also a bit weird (lefty!). Maybe that's playing a role.

    I like to buy them though.

  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2024 4:14PM

    What began as a hobby for me in the 1980s/1990s…in the 21st century is now an investment for me and as such I try to buy high end “legendary” HOFs

    mint_only_pls
  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,680 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited February 5, 2024 4:43PM

    A 1965 Carlton RC PSA-9 (was the oldest card in my collection ), which I recently sold in a Heritage Auction, was purchased raw back in the Fall of 1993 in an Alan Rosen Auction …prices were relatively cheap back in the day.

    mint_only_pls
  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 252 ✭✭✭
    edited February 6, 2024 2:31AM

    @mintonlypls said:
    What began as a hobby for me in the 1980s/1990s…in the 21st century is now an investment for me and as such I try to buy high end “legendary” HOFs

    And that’s the mindset that caused many (not you) to doctor cards, whereas those of us who just enjoy cards (the purists) would never dream of such a thing.

    To each their own but as Craig said some “money “ guys in this hobby have so much dirt on their hands (not you).

  • sayheywyosayheywyo Posts: 431 ✭✭✭

    @mintonlypls said:
    I think it is solid for the grade…but centering precludes a higher grade such as an 8.5.

    Thanks for the input. I've never considered playing the bump/review game. Still, not bad for a $300 purchase many, many years ago. I'm mainly a mid-grade collector--- lots of 6 & 7's and have only purchased one card in my lifetime for over $1K.

  • olb31olb31 Posts: 2,824 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sayhey - you and I have a lot in common.

    Work hard and you will succeed!!
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