1891cc Morgan Help!!
Apollo_23
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Once again, I need you Morgan experts to help me with this 1891cc. What do you feel this would grade as? They offered it for $1100 but it but needs grade right. If it will grade at MS64 or higher then could be worth it. I know there is the spitting eagle VAM but can't tell if this is one or not. Appreciate your help.
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Luster looks flat imo, with those pictures I would lean towards a cleaned details grade.
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If you are going to spend $1100 for a 91CC buy one that is already graded.
I know I know.
These were original pics but I asked for other. These with the lighting almost look fake
If it doesn't details because of the two small gashes on the eagle's breast feathers, I would say it should grade a 63 or 64.
Can't comment on the 'cleaning' comments as I would need to see the coin.
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You know, you know, but you want to try to get a bargain. If the coin hasn't been cleaned - and that's a big "if" - it looks to be of approximately MS62 quality.
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Has nothing to do with a "bargain" as you say. I don't mind buying a graded coin but I like the whole process of buying, then the suspense of sending a coin out for grading. Sometimes it works out for the best and sometimes it does not. Understandably, a purchase of this amount, would be best graded already but does not hurt to ask
Two different coins and on both something looks off with the rims.
Buy it and send it in. A few of those will get you an education pretty quickly. They call it tuition in the coin business.
If it's all about the fun of guessing with a win/lose and not about the value, then buy it and send it in. BTW, @Jim500 is correct, these are two different coins. If you look really close you will barely see the dates are totally different. LOL Good luck.
Jim
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Looks like some dip residue or old cleaning remnants on coin spoiling luster. Also the spitting eagle VAM adds nothing to the value. I believe this is one of the more common VAMs for 91CC.
Nah I'll pass but that's why I asked. If the concensus was yes go for it that's a different story. That's why I joined this fourm. I was told everyone is super nice and honest. That's what I needed
You have to be conservative buying ungraded material. Best case is probably MS63 but MS62 is likely.
I would pass but if I felt like gambling I wouldn’t pay anymore than 50 or 60 cents on the dollar. If the coin doesn’t straight grade you probably should be able to get most of your money back. Unless you’re an expert don’t buy expensive raw coins.
I am in the 62 63 range if it does not details grade because as others have said there are a few concerns. You are getting close to range you can buy one already graded.
Al
The 1891-CC might go MS63 if here are no hidden hairlines or light cleaning.
The 1893 [P] looks polished.
I'd say the 91-CC is MS62, give or take. I can't tell from the pictures if it has problems that would preclude it grading.
The VAM 3 spitting eagle is by far the most common 91-CC VAM. There is a VAM 7 spitting eagle that is scarce, but not heavily pursued. Combined with the relative high value of a 91-CC in the first place, that keeps the VAM 7 premium low.
Most reputable sellers would be embarrassed to send those pictures of the 93.
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I'm confused. This is a completely different date and mint mark than the other coin. Was it listed as an 1893?
The 1891-cc needs to be seen in hand in order to offer a substantive reply. There are too many questions that only an in hand look will resolve.
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The 1893 has some issues that are self evident and extend beyond the difficulty of taking great images
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