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Name a Coin You Couldn't Buy 3 Of Even If You Had The Money

Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

There are a lot of scarce coins out there like 1823 quarters and 1802 half dimes. Here's one from my collecting series - 1853 no arrows quarter. 44,200 minted but most were melted since the weight standard changed Feb 21st, lowering the weight of the minor silver coins. The 1853 no arrows quarter is a truly rare coin but doesn't receive the same attention as the scarce branch mint issues like 1849-o or 1860-s. You would be hard pressed to find more than one for sale at any time, let alone 3.

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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭

    Most people don't think of 1853 quarters as scarce until they run into this one. Lucky for this coin no enterprising young "artist" attempted to hand-engrave the missing arrows and rays at any point in its life! :wink:

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭

    Oh as for a guess, the 1822 Half Eagle. I believe just the 3 known, but not all 3 are for sale -- even if one had the money!

  • FlyingAlFlyingAl Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pattern High Relief 1907 $20s.

    They are said to exist, but not a one has surfaced.

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1849 Double Eagle.

  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    1849 Double Eagle.

    Poor J.P. Morgan. Turned down!

  • Farmer1961Farmer1961 Posts: 166 ✭✭✭

    1873-CC no arrows seated dime.

  • The_Dinosaur_ManThe_Dinosaur_Man Posts: 823 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A trio of unique 1870-S coins

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1875-P Chopmarked Trade Dollar. There is one undisputed example and a few other disputed examples.

  • edwardjulioedwardjulio Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2024 12:54PM

    Does not fit the parameters.

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  • originalisbestoriginalisbest Posts: 5,901 ✭✭✭✭

    Too bad we can't give hearts-a-flutter emoticons for proof gold like that!

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depends upon any additional specific parameters, mainly the time period.

    Most of the examples provided above aren't surprising (for the non-circulating examples) since these are all made rare or at least made scarce.

    Since this is the US side of the forum, outside of coins which can be easily identified in the Red Book, the only circulating federal coinage I'd describe as "hard to buy" in multiple (3) if not limited by die variety or condition are a relatively low number of seated coinage and a larger proportion of 19th century gold (Liberty Head and Capped Head).

    In world coinage, it's the norm for many series, definitely 19th century and earlier Latin coinage, but much of this potentially or probably due to the much lower price level. I own multiples of date/mint/denomination combinations in my series that don't ever show up for sale except in low quality publicly because I bought the better examples previously which "locks out" practically everyone else.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:
    1875-P Chopmarked Trade Dollar. There is one undisputed example and a few other disputed examples.

    This is a type of specialization and a very narrow one at that. If specialization is included, the number of candidates is literally in the tens of thousands.

  • HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1862 $20 PF65 DCAM. Try finding 3 of those babies!

  • lermishlermish Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:

    @lermish said:
    1875-P Chopmarked Trade Dollar. There is one undisputed example and a few other disputed examples.

    This is a type of specialization and a very narrow one at that. If specialization is included, the number of candidates is literally in the tens of thousands.

    I don't disagree that it's a specialization but:

    1. So what?
    2. You really think there are tens of thousands of US major varieties with pops of under 5?
  • FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    How about a Type 1, Type 2 and Type 3 proof $20 Lib all in 67DCAM?

  • FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:
    Two proofs were made, Augustus Humbert kept one for his personal collection (pictured below), and sent the other one to Philly to be kept in the mint cabinet. I assume it’s in the Smithsonian now, it doesn’t have as much color as this one.

    Love this coin!

  • PillarDollarCollectorPillarDollarCollector Posts: 4,607 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2024 7:51PM

    Over here on the dark side there are many many Latin American coins like that. It is the norm for many series. Money does not mean much in many cases you simply have to wait like everybody else in line. Of course it helps to have funds once a coin does show up but it will likely not make coins come out of long term collections unless you truly want to pay up and even then I am not sure many would chose to sell.

    As for US coins 1913 liberty nickel would be one of them.

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  • HillbillyCollectorHillbillyCollector Posts: 487 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Floridafacelifter said:
    How about a Type 1, Type 2 and Type 3 proof $20 Lib all in 67DCAM?

    >
    Oh, I didn’t think this was possible but I forgot there’s a 1864 PF67 DCAM, 1866 PF67 DCAM, and a few different Type 3s in PF67 DCAM.
    Ordinarily, I would agree this is unattainable, but if I were guessing, you have the ‘64 and ‘66. So, yes it’s totally doable……..for you!😂

  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,142 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Strawberry leaf large cent.

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  • keyman64keyman64 Posts: 15,451 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1926 DDO FS-101 Mercury Dime. I do not think three have been found yet.

    "If it's not fun, it's not worth it." - KeyMan64
    Looking for Top Pop Mercury Dime Varieties & High Grade Mercury Dime Toners. :smile:
  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,333 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 30, 2024 11:35PM

    The 1815 quarter eagle
    (Not the penny either)

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 45,209 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @originalisbest said:
    Oh as for a guess, the 1822 Half Eagle. I believe just the 3 known, but not all 3 are for sale -- even if one had the money!

    One is in private hands and two are impounded in the Smithsonian Institute.

    Worry is the interest you pay on a debt you may not owe.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I guess I didn't explain my premise very well. I was thinking more along the lines of a rare coin that is collectible but you never see very often. I wasn't really thinking about coins that actually only have 3 or less in existence.

  • No HeadlightsNo Headlights Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1851 or 1852 Seated dollar straight graded

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2024 6:46AM

    @lermish said:

    @WCC said:

    @lermish said:
    1875-P Chopmarked Trade Dollar. There is one undisputed example and a few other disputed examples.

    This is a type of specialization and a very narrow one at that. If specialization is included, the number of candidates is literally in the tens of thousands.

    I don't disagree that it's a specialization but:

    1. So what?
    2. You really think there are tens of thousands of US major varieties with pops of under 5?

    "Major" varieties, no. But I didn't specify "major" which is subjective too. The OP also didn't specify a number in existence either.

    In the non-US series I primarily collect, the mintages aren't usually that low but it's not practical to buy three (3) as indicated in the OP. It depends upon how long you had to find it and how much over "market" you're willing to pay. If someone looks long and hard enough, they can eventually find three of most of these as "dreck" but that's about it.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    I guess I didn't explain my premise very well. I was thinking more along the lines of a rare coin that is collectible but you never see very often. I wasn't really thinking about coins that actually only have 3 or less in existence.

    This is my interpretation of the original intent of this thread, which is why I excluded coinage not struck for circulation or specialization. There isn't anything unusual about the scarcity of most of this coinage.

    I looked up the 1853 no arrows quarter on Coin Facts. By my perception, it's a narrower scarcity than other dates (minor difference in the design) but US collectors don't see it this way.

    Coin Facts estimates 500 but given the TPG counts and prices, seems to me the number should be fewer. I haven't looked for it, but I agree it's presumably a difficult coin to buy in multiple.

  • lermishlermish Posts: 1,773 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:

    @lermish said:

    @WCC said:

    @lermish said:
    1875-P Chopmarked Trade Dollar. There is one undisputed example and a few other disputed examples.

    This is a type of specialization and a very narrow one at that. If specialization is included, the number of candidates is literally in the tens of thousands.

    I don't disagree that it's a specialization but:

    1. So what?
    2. You really think there are tens of thousands of US major varieties with pops of under 5?

    "Major" varieties, no. But I didn't specify "major" which is subjective too.

    You didn't specify...in the exact same way that the OP didn't specify any guidelines for how to "Name a Coin You Couldn't Buy 3 Of Even If You Had The Money"???

    I don't understand why you felt the need to comment on my choice of what I would like to buy 3 of but can't. Your comment was wholly unnecessary and obtuse.

    So my #1 comment is still valid...so what? JFC.

  • WCCWCC Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:

    @WCC said:

    @lermish said:

    @WCC said:

    @lermish said:
    1875-P Chopmarked Trade Dollar. There is one undisputed example and a few other disputed examples.

    This is a type of specialization and a very narrow one at that. If specialization is included, the number of candidates is literally in the tens of thousands.

    I don't disagree that it's a specialization but:

    1. So what?
    2. You really think there are tens of thousands of US major varieties with pops of under 5?

    "Major" varieties, no. But I didn't specify "major" which is subjective too.

    You didn't specify...in the exact same way that the OP didn't specify any guidelines for how to "Name a Coin You Couldn't Buy 3 Of Even If You Had The Money"???

    I don't understand why you felt the need to comment on my choice of what I would like to buy 3 of but can't. Your comment was wholly unnecessary and obtuse.

    So my #1 comment is still valid...so what? JFC.

    I wasn't singling you out. I just won't reply to your posts anymore.

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WCC said:

    @Manifest_Destiny said:
    I guess I didn't explain my premise very well. I was thinking more along the lines of a rare coin that is collectible but you never see very often. I wasn't really thinking about coins that actually only have 3 or less in existence.

    This is my interpretation of the original intent of this thread, which is why I excluded coinage not struck for circulation or specialization. There isn't anything unusual about the scarcity of most of this coinage.

    I looked up the 1853 no arrows quarter on Coin Facts. By my perception, it's a narrower scarcity than other dates (minor difference in the design) but US collectors don't see it this way.

    Coin Facts estimates 500 but given the TPG counts and prices, seems to me the number should be fewer. I haven't looked for it, but I agree it's presumably a difficult coin to buy in multiple.

    Thanks, yeah I think there's far less 1853 NA quarters than 500 in existence. Probably more like 150. I've never seen two for sale in the past few years. Being a Philly issue, it doesn't get much attention.

  • DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,480 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Floridafacelifter said:

    @DeplorableDan said:
    Two proofs were made, Augustus Humbert kept one for his personal collection (pictured below), and sent the other one to Philly to be kept in the mint cabinet. I assume it’s in the Smithsonian now, it doesn’t have as much color as this one.

    Love this coin!

    I would liquidate my assets and sell my soul for that coin, and I still dont think I could afford it. Maybe we can partner on it, but you would have to subsidize the majority of the cost? The coin can come with me every other weekend, have two christmas'? Please say yes..... :D

  • FloridafacelifterFloridafacelifter Posts: 1,139 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DeplorableDan said:

    @Floridafacelifter said:

    @DeplorableDan said:
    Two proofs were made, Augustus Humbert kept one for his personal collection (pictured below), and sent the other one to Philly to be kept in the mint cabinet. I assume it’s in the Smithsonian now, it doesn’t have as much color as this one.

    Love this coin!

    I would liquidate my assets and sell my soul for that coin, and I still dont think I could afford it. Maybe we can partner on it, but you would have to subsidize the majority of the cost? The coin can come with me every other weekend, have two christmas'? Please say yes..... :D

    We live close enough- we can share custody!

  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 409 ✭✭✭✭

    I know it is nit picking and grade relevant, but try and find:
    3 1886-S dimes in AU
    3 1842 LG. date quarters in VF
    3 1846-O TD halves in 45 or better(detail coins don't count) lol
    James

  • BarberianBarberian Posts: 2,909 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 74-S WB-4 would be difficult as there only two known to exist at this time. Oops, I guess this doesn't qualify even though it qualifies.

    3 rim nicks away from Good
  • BryceMBryceM Posts: 11,691 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 31, 2024 11:18AM

    Proof Peace dollars. Pick a year (1921 or 1922). You could possibly acquire one, and eventually perhaps even 3 of them, but it would likely take many years before they came to market.

    Even something as "mundane" as a small eagle quarter or small eagle half dollar would be a challenge.

  • yosclimberyosclimber Posts: 4,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Proof half dimes before 1855.
    Very few are known of each date, and they don't come up for sale often.

  • Married2CoinsMarried2Coins Posts: 146 ✭✭✭

    A $50 Slug in Poor Condition.

  • CoinbertCoinbert Posts: 29 ✭✭✭

    Your 20's are awesome FFL. I was surprised to find that only three deep cameo (or ultra cameo) 1906 eagles have been graded at both services. One at PCGS and two at NGC all 66's. Two with CAC approval. Dan saw the PCGS coin at FUN.

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