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GTG AU liberty seated quarters - grades posted

CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 169 ✭✭✭✭
edited January 20, 2024 1:48PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Each of the four AU grades (50,53,55,58) are represented by these examples. Match the coins to the proper grade. All coins are PCGS CAC.







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  • jughead1893jughead1893 Posts: 825 ✭✭✭✭

    58,50,55,53

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50,53,58,55

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50,53,55,58

  • OwnerofawheatiehordeOwnerofawheatiehorde Posts: 1,452 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55, 53, 50, 58.

    Type collector, mainly into Seated. Young Numismatist. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON

  • JBNJBN Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58, 50, 53, 55.

  • FrazFraz Posts: 1,549 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50, 53, 55, 58

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58, 50, 55, 53

    Those are what I think the assigned grades are. By my own standards the grades would be 55, 50, 53. 50.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • Project NumismaticsProject Numismatics Posts: 1,280 ✭✭✭✭✭

    58, 53, 50, 55

    All are quite lovely regardless - you have good taste!!

  • DeplorableDanDeplorableDan Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2024 6:47AM

    58, 53, 50, 55

  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 169 ✭✭✭✭

    @Project Numismatics said:
    58, 53, 50, 55

    All are quite lovely regardless - you have good taste!!

    Thank you!

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just realized no one has this correct yet, including me.

    I'll try a second guess - 53,50,58,55

  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭

    I am no expert and will admit that the specific date can make a difference in the grade for me.
    I think the first coin the 49 is AU-50
    I think the 1878-cc is an AU-55. But in part because I spent many years looking for that date and found it a poorly struck coin that often had issues.
    I think the 1890 is the AU-58 but could very easily be wrong having never owned the date.
    I gave the 1891-s AU-53 because that is a date I often see in great condition (many prooflike) so I think it is harder to get a higher grade.
    just my thoughts and i am no expert. James

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,034 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Project Numismatics said:
    58, 53, 50, 55

    All are quite lovely regardless - you have good taste!!

    Doug definitely has an eye for originality. So far I've mostly avoided the AU grade for my set (I only have 2 total), but I'd buy them all day if they looked like Doug's coins.

  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 169 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the kind words Don!

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50, 58, 55, 53 is my guess - but we're really splitting hairs!

  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 169 ✭✭✭✭
    edited January 20, 2024 2:35PM

    @rhedden said:
    50, 58, 55, 53 is my guess - but we're really splitting hairs!

    You're right, grading original AU liberty seated quarters is "like splitting hairs."
    @rhedden was also the only person to guess the grades of two coins correctly.

    The grades are: 1849 - AU53, 1878-CC - AU58, 1890 - AU55, 1891-S - AU50.
    It was interesting that the lowest graded coin - the 1891-S, had the highest average grade estimate at 55.08!
    And the highest graded coin - the 1878-CC, had the lowest average grade estimate at 52.58!

    Thanks for all the guesses everyone.

    Doug

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,466 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just goes to show how much we know about grading this difficult series :/

  • rheddenrhedden Posts: 6,554 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 21, 2024 2:07AM

    I figured the 1849 got net-graded a bit because of the hidden hairline on the eagle's leg/lower shield, but I dropped it all the way to 50. The 1878-cc AU58 was the easiest for me out of the four because it has just a trace of wear on the head and edges of the eagle's wings. The 1891-S may be slightly undergraded at AU50.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Opinions do vary and this exercise just places emphasis on that fact.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭

    this was fun. I suppose I should be chagrined to be wrong but in fact I think the grades support my theory. In my opinion the 1878-cc is by far the hardest coin to find nice. I spent at least 15 years and looked at at least a hundred coins to find an attractive one. Likewise, the 1891-s seems to be the 1881-s Morgan of Seated quarters. I will explain in case you don't pay attention to Morgans. A number of years back at a family gathering they asked to see some coins. I took out a slab book that had about 3 dozen Morgans in it. I explained the basics of grading and the significance of the numbers on the slabs. After only a few minutes several of them declared the hobby didn't make sense. Steve said, "This coin is the shiniest, has no marks I can see and I think I could use it to shave but it has the lowest number on it!" An 1881-s of course.
    What I would like to hear though is what does anyone here think makes one coin a 50 and another a 53. I can say in truth I am often mystified. Case in point. In last weeks Heritage Tuesday auction there were 2 1891 Seated Halves. The 50 was by far the superior coin and I wasn't even slightly surprised to see the 50 sell for more than the 53. I would like to say that was the exception but I see it all to often. James

  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 169 ✭✭✭✭

    James,

    Thanks for your thoughts. I agree with you that the difference between AU50 and AU53 is negligible. The same can be said of AU55/AU58. If I have a coin that I love and submit it for grading, I don't really care if it slightly misses my grading expectation. I think if the four liberty seated quarters I posted were all PCGS55 CAC, no one would protest. JA has even commented about the need for the AU53 grade.

    Doug

  • fathomfathom Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 21, 2024 12:45PM

    Thank you TPGs for reaffirming and legitimizing the omnipresent activity of splitting hairs, in the marketplace of rare US classic and modern coin collecting.

  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 407 ✭✭✭✭

    You are so right Crepidodera. If you had posted these and said they were all graded 55 I would have believed you. All four are strong coins. thanks for the grading challenge though. James

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