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1979 and 1981 Type 2 Proof Sets

NorCalJackNorCalJack Posts: 513 ✭✭✭✭✭

So my dad bought proof sets during the 70's until 1981 and we ended up getting 1979 and 1981 Type 2's for all the coins. I have 4 sets of 1979 and 7 sets of 1981. All of the coins are haze free and fields have no noticeable blemishes. Some of these may go PR70DCAM and so I am going to submit all in for grading. I will be leaving the coins in the original plastic holders, because I am afraid that by me handling the coins and placing them in Mylar sleeves, may create hairlines. When I fill out the PCGS form I assume I just place a sticker next to the coin that matches the submission form. Also since these are Type 2's, do I need to pay for the variety or do they just grade as a normal proof and label it. All of the 1979 and 1981 proofs are labeled Type 1 or 2, so I assume they designate it without you asking for the variety. I'm just asking so I can make sure I fill out the form correctly.

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  • robecrobec Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    55 coins will cost a chunk of change. Won’t that cost more than the value of the sets, unless you receive a good number of 70’s.

  • NorCalJackNorCalJack Posts: 513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There is actually 66 coins, they have the SBA Dollar in the sets.

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @NorCalJack said:
    There is actually 66 coins, they have the SBA Dollar in the sets.

    I forgot about those!

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Have you checked the prices of the PR69DCAMs for the smaller denomination? How confident are you that there will be some PR70DCAMs and they are all type 2's??? You should not have to pay variety fee because they are listed in Redbook and have a separate line in CoinFacts.

  • NorCalJackNorCalJack Posts: 513 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @davewesen said:
    Have you checked the prices of the PR69DCAMs for the smaller denomination? How confident are you that there will be some PR70DCAMs and they are all type 2's??? You should not have to pay variety fee because they are listed in Redbook and have a separate line in CoinFacts.

    Thanks for info on not having to pay for the variety. I know the prices for PR69DCAM's are not great, but I really only need to hit a couple of PR70DCAM's to break even money wise. I have looked at all of the sets and every coin is a type 2 in all 11 sets. I am not sure if that is common or not.

    I recall in 1980 or so when dad commented that there was a Type 2 mintmark on the 1979 sets. So we went and brought them out and all of the mintmarks were clear. But we did not know what the difference between the mintmarks was because they were all the same. Eventually we discovered they were all Type 2's and then in 1981 it happened all over again and all of the coins in the sets we received were Type 2's. The mintmarks matched the 1979 sets, so dad kept them. He did sell some of the 79's and only kept the really good ones. Recently he passed away and now I have them. So I figured I would roll the dice and send them in to see what they would grade.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is not common and the 81's are bringing near $150 on eBay in original set with all 6 coins type 2.

  • kevinstangkevinstang Posts: 1,517 ✭✭✭

    Are you sure on the 1981 type 2's? The 1979 S type 2 is the same mint mark as the 1981 type 1 S mint mark. The 1981 type 2 mint mark is not the same as the 1979 S type 2.

  • robecrobec Posts: 6,535 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @kevinstang said:
    Are you sure on the 1981 type 2's? The 1979 S type 2 is the same mint mark as the 1981 type 1 S mint mark. The 1981 type 2 mint mark is not the same as the 1979 S type 2.

    You’d better tell CoinFacts. They still think Type 2 on 1979 and 1981 are the clear S.

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Why not show them to @SanctionII
    He's the expert in these proof sets

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭✭✭

    the 81-S type 2's are flat top ... like a plataeu on a mountain ... the type 1's are mountain peaks (and some are clear)

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,293 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @robec said:

    @kevinstang said:
    Are you sure on the 1981 type 2's? The 1979 S type 2 is the same mint mark as the 1981 type 1 S mint mark. The 1981 type 2 mint mark is not the same as the 1979 S type 2.

    You’d better tell CoinFacts. They still think Type 2 on 1979 and 1981 are the clear S.

    They are, but the 1981 clear S is clearer than the 1979 clear S.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,293 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 18, 2024 7:33PM

    I just don't see the value proposition here for the 79s. It would be better to pre-screen.

  • erscoloerscolo Posts: 421 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The 1981 S Type 2 Lincoln Cent is the only non-error Lincoln Cent I am missing in my 1950-2023 graded set of them. I keep forgetting to check on the availability of that one for sale. Mine were all purchased graded.

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,676 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I checked the values again and it seems for 1981-S type 2 cents, helves and dollars a PR68DCAM or higher pays submission cost for modern economy (if you have enough for bulk, would lower break even valur). Getting a 70 on any would be nice but does not seem to happen very often.

  • Married2CoinsMarried2Coins Posts: 136 ✭✭✭

    I have one partial set with the 1981-S dollar, quarter, and dime Type 2. Every Type 2 set I have seen that is still intact (about 20) has a haze on the coins, especially the dollar. Your coins have no haze. I suggest you send one or two sets in and see the resulats so you don't end up wasting money. The guys in my coinclub argue about the Type of certain 1981-S proofs. The '79's are easy to tell.

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