Having grown up in CC and experiencing using silver dollars on a daily basis gives me a fondness for circulated examples. The more they circulated the more I like them. Honest wear from commerce used silver is the cat's meow to me.
Here is one for your pleasure, or not!
bob
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Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
The story behind the Saddle Ridge Hoard is exciting. To this day it is not publicly known who the discoverers of the hoard were.
In any event, while most of the coins in the hoard were minted at the San Francisco Mint, there were a few Carson City minted coins as well.
Since I have a modest collection of Carson City minted $20 gold coins, this coin piqued my interest as it was a date I had not yet acquired and had the "story" of its having been preserved in a "time capsule" for the decades it remained buried by the also unknown person(s) who hid it in the 1800s.
This cc of mine is one of the few Carson City coins that was included in the Saddle Ridge Hoard. I acquired it directly from my Northwestern classmate Don Kagin who acquired it in turn from the mysterious finders of the Saddle Ridge Hoard:
I was in Reno this week to visit Northern Nevada Coin to do some trading. I never owned a CC coin, so decided why not acquire one that was minted about 100 ft from where I was standing. Darn, CC gold sure is expensive and I didn't want to spend too much, so I picked this $5 gold piece up. Without a doubt, the ugliest Liberty in my collection, but it is CC gold!
@JW77 said:
I was in Reno this week to visit Northern Nevada Coin to do some trading. I never owned a CC coin, so decided why not acquire one that was minted about 100 ft from where I was standing. Darn, CC gold sure is expensive and I didn't want to spend too much, so I picked this $5 gold piece up. Without a doubt, the ugliest Liberty in my collection, but it is CC gold!
If anyone wants a color brochure on the 1870CC dollar my great grandparents were given by Mint Super Blasdel just message me. It's free. It was one of the first three dollars minted in Carson on Feb 4th, 1870. Camera down, not able to get pics up.
bob
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Registry: CC lowballs (boblindstrom), bobinvegas1989@yahoo.com
Posting this for a friend. Ever see a GSA Morgan with what looks to be 4 back holders on the coin instead of 3. Also never seen one that is not directly on the bottom. The CC mint mark looks off (thin) also something like casting marks or something on the rim. Just looks off to me.
“Mr. Curry, the superintendent of the Carson City Mint, was a close friend of my parents. One day on his way back to the mint he stopped at our home during the noon hour. When Mama answered the front door he shook hands with her and left a dollar in her hand saying, "Marcella here's a dollar for you. I give it to you so you will never be broke."
She thanked him for it but did not quite understand what he meant.
They were still talking when Matt Rinckel left his lunch and joined him at the door. "What's going on here? What are you two talking about?" So, Mama recounted the above conversation and handed her husband the silver dollar.
Matt Rinckel took the coin and looked at it carefully. As he turned it over in his hand he saw the initials M.M.R. (for Mathias and Marcella Rinckel) on the upper right hand curve of the dollar, and on the reverse under the eagle, CC for the mint. The date is 1870.
"This is the very first dollar to be minted in our Carson Mint, Matt" he explained. "The second one is for Governor Blasdel and the third for President Grant.
Louise Rinckel Blakeslee, daughter NEVADA STATE JOURNAL: July, 1958
Now for the rest of the story: My Great Grandfather left Iowa as a teenager with 6 other buddies in 1849 and headed for the goldfields of California. Matt, as he was called, and the others worked hard for 10 years in the Shasta County area of California. They, through their strong backs, got rich. Filthy rich! Then their claim ran out. After saying goodbye to his friends he headed to the Comstock Lode that had just been discovered in Nevada Territory in 1859. Still young, single and strong he thought he' could do the same in the Virginia District as he did in California. Not to be! When he got to Virginia City via Genoa he realized that it was not placer mining but hardrock mining. Not for him!
Back to Genoa and he met Abe Curry, then touting his Eagle Valley propery and trying to get his "Carson City" on the map. Well, Abe and Matt hit it off and became best of friends. Together with Matt's capital and Abe's land they began to build, brick by brick, stone by stone, a new city.
After several years of this commercial partnership Matt decided he wanted something else. Abe suggested, since he was an Iowa farm boy, to open up a butcher shop. That he did and named it The Eagle Market. Another fortune to be had by feeding the miners and the timber men!
Matt and Marcella had 6 children, 5 girls and a boy (my Grandfather). He and Marcella built the Rinckel Mansion at the corner of King and Curry Streets in 1874-76. The Mansion had 5 bedrooms and the first indoor toilet in Nevada! None too good for his girls!
Abe died in 1875 and Matt in 1879.
Marcella carried that dollar in her change purse from Feburary of 1870 until her death in 1933. At that time my Great Aunt Louise inherited the Mansion and the dollar. Aunt Louise did the same and just carried it in her purse. Her husband, George Blakeslee, saw that the coin was being ruined. He was a jeweler and to preserve and protect the dollar he put it in the bracelet that it resides today. Aunt Louise died in 1960 when I was a freshman in high school. I remember her wearing the dollar on her wrist and she had a habit of just rubbing it (not good, heh?). Of course it continued to wear, but now more so on the obverse and less on the reverse.
My mother inherited the dollar and the mansion in 1960. I inherited the dollar (not the mansion) in 1997 when my mother passed.
I was collecting long before I received this from Mom and in fact had forgotten all about it until us kids divided up the estate. I guess that technically speaking it is uncirculated with wear! After all, "it was to be carried so that you'll never be broke".
So, I can truly say that this was from Great Granpa and out of an Estate.
I've pared down my GSA collection (sigh) but I've held onto most of the memorabilia.
Here's something from the GSA world you don't see every day:
Obviously, this example was part (or maybe was the presentation) of a presentation package for the annual Governor's Conference that was held in Nevada in 1973. The box is an ordinary GSA hardpack box but the interior is different. The cover lid has a different caption while the part of the box that held the coin is lined with a crushed velour.
I found the box at a coin show back in the early 2000s and immediately bought it. The price was priced at a basic uncirculated common date GSA plus maybe 10%. Seems like a no-brainer.
The coin is a nothing too special. It'll probably grade MS65 PL but does it really matter?
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On a different note, I think I stumbled across my first fake GSA Morgan. The silver letters should not be so stuck together and shotty looking amd that's like black construction paper in the case, not the raised type Unless you collect and know about them, they would fool almost anyone
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This one is on my key chain.
My Adolph A. Weinman signature
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
Complete Set of Chopmarked Trade Dollars
Carson City Silver Dollars Complete 1870-1893http://www.pcgs.com/setregistry/showcase.aspx?sc=2722"
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Having grown up in CC and experiencing using silver dollars on a daily basis gives me a fondness for circulated examples. The more they circulated the more I like them. Honest wear from commerce used silver is the cat's meow to me.
Here is one for your pleasure, or not!
bob
vegas, baby!
I have had a few CC coins in my travels, but only one remains.
1877-CC 50C WB-11 Type 2 Medium CC RPD
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Seated Dollar Collection
In May 1968 my father and I bought 600 Silver Dollars, for $1.75 each, from a banker. In it were two 1889-CC in VG or so. Those were the days.
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Posted this in new purchases but since it is a CC. Posting here too!!!
Not as nice as that 20C beauty MS64 posted by @PocketChange but still not bad.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
1879-CC GSA with some “accoutrements”.
“The thrill of the hunt never gets old”
PCGS Registry: Screaming Eagles
Copperindian
Retired sets: Soaring Eagles
Copperindian
Thanks all
Ditto
Having the provenance is pretty awesome
I was in Reno this week to visit Northern Nevada Coin to do some trading. I never owned a CC coin, so decided why not acquire one that was minted about 100 ft from where I was standing. Darn, CC gold sure is expensive and I didn't want to spend too much, so I picked this $5 gold piece up. Without a doubt, the ugliest Liberty in my collection, but it is CC gold!
That is still a terrific coin! 👍
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Not my coin but thought we could use a Tailbar in this thread.
If anyone wants a color brochure on the 1870CC dollar my great grandparents were given by Mint Super Blasdel just message me. It's free. It was one of the first three dollars minted in Carson on Feb 4th, 1870. Camera down, not able to get pics up.
bob
vegas, baby!
In the early 1960's my Dad bought me an 1878-CC Silver Dollar in Uncirculated condition for $4.50. I sure wish that I had kept it.
It took over ten years, but I completed my 110 piece set. All build around the XF45 grade.
I believe that only four other people hit, or exceeded, a 110 piece set: Eliasberg, Battle Born, and D.L. Hansen.
https://pcgs.com/setregistry/complete-sets/complete-sets-by-mint/carson-city-complete-set-major-varieties-circulation-strikes-1870-1893/publishedset/213824
Your hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need it.
@cccoins
Is there no 1880 low 7 out there? I see you got them all except that one uploaded. Very great and cool accomplishment.
Posting this for a friend. Ever see a GSA Morgan with what looks to be 4 back holders on the coin instead of 3. Also never seen one that is not directly on the bottom. The CC mint mark looks off (thin) also something like casting marks or something on the rim. Just looks off to me.
Member Name: AUandAG
February, 1870
Carson City, Nevada
“Mr. Curry, the superintendent of the Carson City Mint, was a close friend of my parents. One day on his way back to the mint he stopped at our home during the noon hour. When Mama answered the front door he shook hands with her and left a dollar in her hand saying, "Marcella here's a dollar for you. I give it to you so you will never be broke."
She thanked him for it but did not quite understand what he meant.
They were still talking when Matt Rinckel left his lunch and joined him at the door. "What's going on here? What are you two talking about?" So, Mama recounted the above conversation and handed her husband the silver dollar.
Matt Rinckel took the coin and looked at it carefully. As he turned it over in his hand he saw the initials M.M.R. (for Mathias and Marcella Rinckel) on the upper right hand curve of the dollar, and on the reverse under the eagle, CC for the mint. The date is 1870.
"This is the very first dollar to be minted in our Carson Mint, Matt" he explained. "The second one is for Governor Blasdel and the third for President Grant.
Louise Rinckel Blakeslee, daughter NEVADA STATE JOURNAL: July, 1958
Now for the rest of the story: My Great Grandfather left Iowa as a teenager with 6 other buddies in 1849 and headed for the goldfields of California. Matt, as he was called, and the others worked hard for 10 years in the Shasta County area of California. They, through their strong backs, got rich. Filthy rich! Then their claim ran out. After saying goodbye to his friends he headed to the Comstock Lode that had just been discovered in Nevada Territory in 1859. Still young, single and strong he thought he' could do the same in the Virginia District as he did in California. Not to be! When he got to Virginia City via Genoa he realized that it was not placer mining but hardrock mining. Not for him!
Back to Genoa and he met Abe Curry, then touting his Eagle Valley propery and trying to get his "Carson City" on the map. Well, Abe and Matt hit it off and became best of friends. Together with Matt's capital and Abe's land they began to build, brick by brick, stone by stone, a new city.
After several years of this commercial partnership Matt decided he wanted something else. Abe suggested, since he was an Iowa farm boy, to open up a butcher shop. That he did and named it The Eagle Market. Another fortune to be had by feeding the miners and the timber men!
Matt and Marcella had 6 children, 5 girls and a boy (my Grandfather). He and Marcella built the Rinckel Mansion at the corner of King and Curry Streets in 1874-76. The Mansion had 5 bedrooms and the first indoor toilet in Nevada! None too good for his girls!
Abe died in 1875 and Matt in 1879.
Marcella carried that dollar in her change purse from Feburary of 1870 until her death in 1933. At that time my Great Aunt Louise inherited the Mansion and the dollar. Aunt Louise did the same and just carried it in her purse. Her husband, George Blakeslee, saw that the coin was being ruined. He was a jeweler and to preserve and protect the dollar he put it in the bracelet that it resides today. Aunt Louise died in 1960 when I was a freshman in high school. I remember her wearing the dollar on her wrist and she had a habit of just rubbing it (not good, heh?). Of course it continued to wear, but now more so on the obverse and less on the reverse.
My mother inherited the dollar and the mansion in 1960. I inherited the dollar (not the mansion) in 1997 when my mother passed.
I was collecting long before I received this from Mom and in fact had forgotten all about it until us kids divided up the estate. I guess that technically speaking it is uncirculated with wear! After all, "it was to be carried so that you'll never be broke".
So, I can truly say that this was from Great Granpa and out of an Estate.
Sorry, but can no longer do pics. Please vies this site and scroll to bottom (2nd from last) for pics:
http://www.jhonecash.com/research/coin_stories.asp
@AUandAG Thanks for a great story. I know this screen shot doesn't do your coin justice, but it at least offers a visual.
@1northcoin Thannks friend!
bob
vegas, baby!
I've pared down my GSA collection (sigh) but I've held onto most of the memorabilia.
Here's something from the GSA world you don't see every day:
Obviously, this example was part (or maybe was the presentation) of a presentation package for the annual Governor's Conference that was held in Nevada in 1973. The box is an ordinary GSA hardpack box but the interior is different. The cover lid has a different caption while the part of the box that held the coin is lined with a crushed velour.
I found the box at a coin show back in the early 2000s and immediately bought it. The price was priced at a basic uncirculated common date GSA plus maybe 10%. Seems like a no-brainer.
The coin is a nothing too special. It'll probably grade MS65 PL but does it really matter?
I enjoy my Morgan CC. Never thought I'd own one less these.
You can see them all in my registry links below.
I just got this one in the past week.
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My current Registry sets:
✓ Everyman Mint State Carson City Morgan Dollars (1878 – 1893)
✓ Everyman Mint State Lincoln Cents (1909 – 1958)
✓ Morgan Dollar GSA Hoard (1878 – 1891)
Buddy wants to sell me this. Not sure if it is a PL or DMPL. She looks like she won't to battle. Wonder if it would straight grade
Your hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need it.
Your hobby is supposed to be your therapy, not the reason you need it.
On a different note, I think I stumbled across my first fake GSA Morgan. The silver letters should not be so stuck together and shotty looking amd that's like black construction paper in the case, not the raised type Unless you collect and know about them, they would fool almost anyone
There is, but seldom seen in VF/XF. It really isn't a part of the 110 piece set. It's just a PCGS addition. Just didn't seem worth the effort.
Only CC I ever had. Not sure I even still have it. If so, in my 7070.
Jim
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Another ‘75 CC, but with the mintmark below the wreath
