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Post Your Struck Through Dropped Letters If You Have Them.

OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • habaracahabaraca Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭✭✭

    1836 Bust half Reverse struck thru Grease

  • emeraldATVemeraldATV Posts: 3,925 ✭✭✭✭✭

  • epcepc Posts: 106 ✭✭✭

    How about a digit?

    Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    I believe that is struck thru double struck scrap. Not a dropped letter.

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dropped letter "C" at "CENT".


  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A little more difficult to see. Dropped letter "S" at "TED" of UNITED.


  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace - I should have posted this. Do the words scrap and fragment essentially mean the same thing in this context?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    @MWallace - I should have posted this. Do the words scrap and fragment essentially mean the same thing in this context?

    Yes, scrap and fragment are the same. Nice coin BTW.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 5,493 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace - I actually cherrypicked it from a local coin club auction for 3 bucks. I think the seller thought it was damaged.

    I got it home and I knew I had something. So I sent it off to ANACS.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @emeraldATV said:

    NOPE.

  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,743 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @epc said:
    How about a digit?

    Not a dropped digit. This is a clash.

  • epcepc Posts: 106 ✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2024 7:55AM

    @MarkKelley - Please explain to me how a clash would produce the observed effect. As you can see from clash marks on the reverse, there has been little or no rotation between the clash and the striking of this coin. (I do my photos so the obverse is "rectified" and the reverse shows the current rotation.) You can see the date digits. Similarly, we sometimes see clashes of the reverse lettering in the date area. But we don't see significant flattening of raised features, incuse in the die, especially in such a limited area with unaffected features nearby. I'm open to learn how a clash could do this, but I don't get it now.

    Added later: Sorry, I misinterpreted your comment. I believe now that you are referring to the clash marks on the reverse. I should have been clear from the start that I'm referring to the 3 in the date as being "dropped" (~missing) due to being struck through some foreign substance on the die - possibly not the phenomenon the OP wants to see...

    Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states

  • epcepc Posts: 106 ✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2024 7:35AM

    BTW, I have several examples struck with the same obverse die: an earlier state with a weak 3 and no crack (below 3 through arrow/base/toe), this coin, good 3 and crack, good 3 and cud. If a clash had caused the weakness in the 3, subsequent lapping would not restore the 3. They'd have to recut/repunch the 3 in the die.


    Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states

  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,683 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Where did these letters drop from? were they a piece from a previous coin that stayed in a section of the die that fell onto a later coin before striking?

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @epc said:
    I should have been clear from the start that I'm referring to the 3 in the date as being "dropped" (~missing) due to being struck through some foreign substance on the die - possibly not the phenomenon the OP wants to see...

    You don't have a dropped number, you have a filled die. ;)

  • epcepc Posts: 106 ✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2024 8:15AM

    So let me try this again. Here's an 1854 N-9 "Dartboard" Large Cent obverse. The most obvious is the 1 at the back of the ear. Not struck through, but dropped.

    Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states

  • epcepc Posts: 106 ✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2024 8:44AM

    @JBK said:

    @epc said:
    I should have been clear from the start that I'm referring to the 3 in the date as being "dropped" (~missing) due to being struck through some foreign substance on the die - possibly not the phenomenon the OP wants to see...

    You don't have a dropped number, you have a filled die. ;)

    Yes, I know. "struck through some foreign substance on the die"

    So, just to try to be clear:
    a) I think I misinterpreted the OP's actual request
    b) My first post above would have been better if I led with the obverse photo and described what I was posting about. Then MarkKelley would not have thought I was referring to the obvious clash marks on the reverse.
    c) By writing '"dropped" (~missing)', I was trying to say that I'm not thinking in terms of clumsiness and gravity, but an alternate meaning of "dropped" that is not really a perfect fit to the situation.

    Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states

  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,536 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @epc said:

    @JBK said:

    @epc said:
    I should have been clear from the start that I'm referring to the 3 in the date as being "dropped" (~missing) due to being struck through some foreign substance on the die - possibly not the phenomenon the OP wants to see...

    You don't have a dropped number, you have a filled die. ;)

    Yes, I know. "struck through some foreign substance on the die"

    Yes, I know that you know. But it wasn't what the OP was asking for. :)

  • jayPemjayPem Posts: 3,987 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not even slightly an error guy, but let me see if I can be of some help...
    What has "dropped" (onto another part of the coin) and then struck through, is the hardened grease that was very recently filling a nearby device?
    Yeah?
    Pretty cool for sure, and like I said, I'm NAEG

  • epcepc Posts: 106 ✭✭✭

    Yes, I know that too. But I didn't when I first posted. I'll drop it now...

    Collector of Liberty Seated Half Dimes, including die pairs and die states

  • crazyhounddogcrazyhounddog Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭✭


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