A nice surprise

CharlotteDude

A co-worker asked me to assess a group of coins his mother-n-law collected back in the ‘50’s and ‘60’s to potentially purchase. The group consists mostly of 90% silver, ‘64 Kennedy halves, and multiple ‘21 (mostly Denver) Morgan’s and various common-date Morgs and Peace dollars. After looking over several ‘84-O Morgs, I came across yet another one dated ‘1884’… expecting another “O” mint mark,

I was surprised to see this…

I guess the pessimist in me expected the lot to be a run-of-mill accumulation. I’ll take CC any day though.

MFeld

It would have been an even nicer surprise if the coin were genuine. 😕

Just kidding.
😈

CharlotteDude

@MFeld said:
It would have been an even nicer surprise if the coin were genuine. 😕

Just kidding.
😈

Exactly Mark… to my untrained eyes within the Morgan series, the portrait and motifs look fine. Even the weight pans out nearly spot on at 26.72 grams. For me, the rim is what really looks off, and when you turn it on its “3rd side”, the difference is a give-away for me.

Compared to another Morgan on left. The ‘84-CC is on the right. I’ve never seen a legit Morgan with such crude-looking reeding.

Che_Grapes

Wait - so is it a fake?

CharlotteDude

I’m not sure it’s fake… but do have my doubts. I’m not a Morgan guy, so I can’t vouch for the reeding generally found on CC dollars, but it sure looks rudimentary to my eyes on this one. The weight is there, the size matches a normal Morgan dollar, and it rings like any other silver dollar, but it just looks off.

gumby1234

Looks real, but cleaned and retoned

MFeld

@gumby1234 said:
Looks real, but cleaned and retoned

That would be my guess, too.

Farmer1961

Could the reading have gotten squished a bit in a jewelry bezel or mount?

Farmer1961

Reeding.

AUandAG

It's real in my opinion and who knows how the edge got damaged. 50 years in dollar slot machines?
bob
vegas, baby!

CharlotteDude

@Farmer1961 said:
Could the reading have gotten squished a bit in a jewelry bezel or mount?

@AUandAG said:
It's real in my opinion and who knows how the edge got damaged. 50 years in dollar slot machines?
bob
vegas, baby!

Thanks gents - I agree that any number of factors could’ve contributed to the rim issues. I’m going to chalk this one up as authentic w/rim damage.

CRHer700

First story: I was once asked to look at an elderly friend’s small accumulation of about ~10 each of peace and Morgan dollars, 10 mercs, etc. Well, I didn’t expect much, so when I saw a ‘79 Morgan, I didn’t think too much of it until I turned it over. Bam! 1879-CC. I was like this is worth a lot, and he is like I’ll put this in my safe. He said that they came from a friend who owned jukebox machines back in the day.
Second story: When I was young, we moved into a new(older) house, and the previous inhabitants had left the basement full of junk. Among mint sets, proof sets, and blue Ikes were these two. Still in GSA holders.

These and @CharlotteDude ‘s story prove that CC dollars were much more wide spread than might be thought.

BECOKA

Is that green PVC on the "N" of United?

CharlotteDude

@BECOKA said:
Is that green PVC on the "N" of United?

I don’t believe so. In hand, it looks like a concentration of the toning/spotting that is also around “TES O” and “In God We Trust”.

CharlotteDude

@CRHer700 said:
First story: I was once asked to look at an elderly friend’s small accumulation of about ~10 each of peace and Morgan dollars, 10 mercs, etc. Well, I didn’t expect much, so when I saw a ‘79 Morgan, I didn’t think too much of it until I turned it over. Bam! 1879-CC. I was like this is worth a lot, and he is like I’ll put this in my safe. He said that they came from a friend who owned jukebox machines back in the day.
Second story: When I was young, we moved into a new(older) house, and the previous inhabitants had left the basement full of junk. Among mint sets, proof sets, and blue Ikes were these two. Still in GSA holders.

These and @CharlotteDude ‘s story prove that CC dollars were much more wide spread than might be thought.

Now those are some great surprises!

mark_dak

@CharlotteDude said:

@Farmer1961 said:
Could the reading have gotten squished a bit in a jewelry bezel or mount?

@AUandAG said:
It's real in my opinion and who knows how the edge got damaged. 50 years in dollar slot machines?
bob
vegas, baby!

Thanks gents - I agree that any number of factors could’ve contributed to the rim issues. I’m going to chalk this one up as authentic w/rim damage.

Seeing this thread for the first time. I tend to agree with this. Appears like the rest of the reeding gets better as you look down the coin. That one area looks pretty beat up.

Mark

Icollecteverything

At first glance I thought it was questionable but didn't know why. But i think the 4 looks off, it looks different than the one on the BU GSA 1884 shown above. It looks like it does not match up with the other 3 numbers. Of course, there are several legit reasons it could look different and still be authentic and I'm no expert.