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Lurking for a while might be a good idea for new members

lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,668 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 13, 2024 1:08PM in U.S. Coin Forum

So you can learn the secret protocols which allow members to interact nicely.

I know I used to lurk, maybe because I was afraid to seem stupid.

LCoopie = Les

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  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,601 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Besides, reading should imbue one with a sense of the ebb and flow of the hobby. Wouldn't that be nice. Peace Roy

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m guessing many of the more serious collectors do, or did lurk, before jumping in. Read the room, see how or where you can contribute, etc.
    The quick buck, parking lot error, and troll people, not so much.

    Successful BST transactions with 170 members. Recent: Tonedeaf, Shane6596, Piano1, Ikenefic, RG, PCGSPhoto, stman, Don'tTelltheWife, Boosibri, Ron1968, snowequities, VTchaser, jrt103, SurfinxHI, 78saen, bp777, FHC, RYK, JTHawaii, Opportunity, Kliao, bigtime36, skanderbeg, split37, thebigeng, acloco, Toninginthblood, OKCC, braddick, Coinflip, robcool, fastfreddie, tightbudget, DBSTrader2, nickelsciolist, relaxn, Eagle eye, soldi, silverman68, ElKevvo, sawyerjosh, Schmitz7, talkingwalnut2, konsole, sharkman987, sniocsu, comma, jesbroken, David1234, biosolar, Sullykerry, Moldnut, erwindoc, MichaelDixon, GotTheBug
  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,750 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Downtown1974 said:

    @MFeld said:
    From time to time, some of us older members could stand a bit of that learning, too.😉

    You don’t fit into that category, Mark.
    You’re what new and current members should strive to be. If we had a CU forum Hall of Fame, you would be a first round inductee in my opinion.

    Thank you, that’s very kind of you and I greatly appreciate it.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • lcoopielcoopie Posts: 8,668 ✭✭✭✭✭

    He’s the Chaplin of numismatics, but not as funny.

    LCoopie = Les
  • Married2CoinsMarried2Coins Posts: 146 ✭✭✭

    @mlittle said:
    I'm still a lurker.

    No any more! ;)

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,072 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Downtown1974 said:

    @MFeld said:
    From time to time, some of us older members could stand a bit of that learning, too.😉

    You don’t fit into that category, Mark.
    You’re what new and current members should strive to be. If we had a CU forum Hall of Fame, you would be a first round inductee in my opinion.

    @MFeld is one of the few members that forces me to think, and word statements a little more carefully (and sometimes just delete before posting), and that’s not a bad thing!

    Successful BST transactions with 170 members. Recent: Tonedeaf, Shane6596, Piano1, Ikenefic, RG, PCGSPhoto, stman, Don'tTelltheWife, Boosibri, Ron1968, snowequities, VTchaser, jrt103, SurfinxHI, 78saen, bp777, FHC, RYK, JTHawaii, Opportunity, Kliao, bigtime36, skanderbeg, split37, thebigeng, acloco, Toninginthblood, OKCC, braddick, Coinflip, robcool, fastfreddie, tightbudget, DBSTrader2, nickelsciolist, relaxn, Eagle eye, soldi, silverman68, ElKevvo, sawyerjosh, Schmitz7, talkingwalnut2, konsole, sharkman987, sniocsu, comma, jesbroken, David1234, biosolar, Sullykerry, Moldnut, erwindoc, MichaelDixon, GotTheBug
  • braddickbraddick Posts: 22,855 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    From time to time, some of us older members could stand a bit of that learning, too.😉

    Like this is a coin forum not the Miss Manners Society?*

    *Of course this is tongue in cheek.

    peacockcoins

  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,278 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lurking, without creating an acct first, is good to not only learn, but to also provide a little buffer...from making snide or ignorant comments in the haste of the moment.
    I remember posting on RCC with k6az and some of the others and then came here and read/lurked for 3-6 months before creating an account. By the time I started posting, I felt like I knew many people already, even though they didn't know me.

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • DropdaflagDropdaflag Posts: 757 ✭✭✭✭

    You take the good, you take the bad,
    you take them both and there you have
    The facts of life, the facts of life.

    source: https://lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/thefactsoflifelyrics.html

  • Farmer1961Farmer1961 Posts: 166 ✭✭✭

    In life many people think they are experts when in fact they're actually legends in their own minds

  • silviosisilviosi Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    Farmer1961 Posts: January 13, 2024 8:02PM
    In life many people think they are experts when in fact they're actually legends in their own minds

    I agree with Farmer. Have knowleadge do not automatically been expert. In order to be the 4 four main qualities must be present. Been lurk it is a passive very peacefull approuch of the subject, regardless the trmoundous knowleadge. Me I respect this and I salute those knowleadge and approuch. What missing to an Lurk to achieve the expert it is the creative challenge. In the follow extract you can discern yourself:
    https://courses.lumenlearning.com/suny-lifespandevelopment/chapter/gaining-expertise-the-novice-and-the-expert/#:~:text=Expert thought is often characterized,automatic, strategic, and flexible.

    NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT.FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL.THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE. MARK TWAIN

  • AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just wait until you find the secret sections.

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 7,961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't care for this particular terminology:

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lurk

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,332 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    From time to time, some of us older members could stand a bit of that learning, too.😉

    We all need that time to time, me included. Best wishes to all

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,760 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Lurking , like voyeurism doesn’t help with discussion.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Lurking , like voyeurism doesn’t help with discussion.

    I think that's true. [Well, I can't speak to voyeurism.] I really don't see how not asking questions for a period of time would change the dynamic on the forum.

    Threads like this just indicate a hostility to newbies who are essentially being advised to study how they should talk to us before they dare to do so. And even then, the conclusion was that some of the veterans are a brown emoji.

  • OnastoneOnastone Posts: 3,744 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just jump in. Be yourself. Ask questions. Who cares if a question was asked before, more than likely it was. Some get upset if threads are duplicated, don't be afraid to talk about this hobby. Enjoy life and don't worry about some of the outspoken members that like to refute everything. Honor the rules of our hosts, no need to be rude. Maybe you'll learn something or somebody else will.

  • Married2CoinsMarried2Coins Posts: 146 ✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @TwoSides2aCoin said:
    Lurking , like voyeurism doesn’t help with discussion.

    I think that's true. [Well, I can't speak to voyeurism.] I really don't see how not asking questions for a period of time would change the dynamic on the forum.

    Threads like this just indicate a hostility to newbies who are essentially being advised to study how they should talk to us before they dare to do so. And even then, the conclusion was that some of the veterans are a brown emoji.

    I have been a "collector" all my life. Long ago, after being "burned" the first time with my collection I joined Cointalk and lurked. Then I joined several other of the popular forums also as a lurker for years. I have found that Collectors Universe is the gold standard of all forums for US collectors. This is the big time. For example, a beginner who does not know what a planchet is should be overwhelmed. I have studied ErrorRef for years before feeling OK to post.

    I recommend any new collector to start as I did on Cointalk because they deal with the pocket change crowd I was in as a kid. There are some very knowledgeable members (three of my favorites) on other forums who are not allowed to post here; so I recommend all members in the lurker crowd to join all the forums. No one gets bashed for asking a question obout a post or having a post or opinion explained further. That's what I have done in the past. They say it takes 10,000 hours to learn something well. I'll bet I have lurked for over 10,000 hours on the coin chats and now I feel I can add something to the threads I post on while I continue to learn. I don't have the type of coins others have but I have the library and the "time-in." So I encourage lurkers to introduce yourself and ask questions to get regular posters like me to think! One of my teachers told me that he learns what he does not know by being questioned. I admire any one who states "I don't know the answer but I will find out for us." Know-it-all collectors who really do know-it-all are my favorite posters. I think members like Mr. Feld and Fred Weinberg are modest people I would put in that basket. The End.

    PS Now, I encourage every lurker to start a new discussion with a question about something they don't understand. Then you will become a "real" member. Don't be afraid.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2024 11:09PM

    Don’t let griefers bug you.

    Yes lurking not a bad idea otherwise the quote trolls will get you. Being discreet the better part of valor? One guy I think he’s on 24/7. I wonder if he’s doing it from a workplace on company time. I think he’s been kicked twice before - The 3rd will be the charm? Some others - watch out🚠.

    And yes good point be sure proofread your post carefully - they will jump you b4 you can revise it.

    So Cali Area - Coins & Currency
  • ChangeInHistoryChangeInHistory Posts: 3,000 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's not a bad idea to get the lay of the land before fully engaging.

  • JimnightJimnight Posts: 10,681 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm becoming a lurker

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    TO EACH HIS OWN!!! 😂
    Life is too short to lurk. Shout it! Shout it! Shout it out loud!
    That would be a Kiss song lurker boys.

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,726 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Let's dance!

  • DropdaflagDropdaflag Posts: 757 ✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    Let's dance!

    "Anyway you want it!"

  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 7,726 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 16, 2024 3:43PM

    That's the way you need it!
    :#

  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 8,846 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I lurked for a few years before joining, as I was a member, ATS first. Nothing wrong with that. I agree with the quote that "it’s better to be silent and appear stupid, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt". When I am giving an evaluation or an opinion; I take my time, thoughtfully, pondering what I’m going to say...for accuracy, if nothing else. However, No one’s right 100% of the time. Remember that, because only fools know everything. So, don’t be afraid to voice your opinion, eventually. You won’t learn, as much, or have as much fun, unless you participate. ;)

    “I may not believe in myself but I believe in what I’m doing” ~Jimmy Page~

    My Full Walker Registry Set:

    https://www.ngccoin.com/registry/competitive-sets/16292/

  • NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 853 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

  • InlanderInlander Posts: 68 ✭✭✭

    I just lurk and occasionally share purchases.

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