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Jerod Mayo - future hall of fame NFL football coach

stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

Jerod Mayo - future hall of fame NFL football coach

Or does Robert Kraft just have Alzheimer's?

All kidding aside, this hire sure seems to be an extreme long shot of being successful. But hey, Kraft is a billionaire so he must know what he is doing, right? 🤔

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  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just saw where Jerod Mayo football cards are red hot. There is a feeding frenzy out there. Folks are becoming instant millionaires from investments in his cards. The card prices are going to Pluto.

    Mayo already working on his hall of fame induction speech.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It is always hard to follow a legend. lots of pressure and big shoes to fill for Mayo

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    It is always hard to follow a legend. lots of pressure and big shoes to fill for Mayo

    Completely agree. Which makes this hire even more puzzling.

    Plus the Patriots aren't even competitive right now. They are clearly going to need a rebuilding process, and they hire an inexperienced guy such as this to partake in it?

    To be blunt, I'm not sure even drafting another Tom Brady would make this guy successful. Unless he has an amazingly quick learning curve, the other NFL coaches are going to eat him alive for at least the next two or three seasons or more.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I realize that Mike Singletary took a similar career path. I can't compare the two because I don't know Mayo at all. But I've watched documentaries on Singletary. Highly intelligent, tireless worker, extremely dedicated, and phenomenal tutelage under the great Buddy Ryan who adored him. And despite all that, Singletary had a short fair-poor NFL head coaching career.

    Maybe this situation will turn out different. We shall see.

  • spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Chances of Mayo winning 6 SB's, or even >1SB, well the odds are against him and near zero, zilch, nada. Good luck to him tho', but Brady is NOT IN THE BUILDING. HST, there are way too many solid teams out there right now and the chances of the Pats reaching that level in the next decade? Uh, no, and thus, Mayo will be long gone b4 then. Sorry...........


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  • TabeTabe Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    I realize that Mike Singletary took a similar career path. I can't compare the two because I don't know Mayo at all. But I've watched documentaries on Singletary. Highly intelligent, tireless worker, extremely dedicated, and phenomenal tutelage under the great Buddy Ryan who adored him. And despite all that, Singletary had a short fair-poor NFL head coaching career.

    Maybe this situation will turn out different. We shall see.

    Singletary ended up being a clown as a coach. He freaking dropped his trousers at halftime in the locker room of his first game.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s impossible to be the person who succeeds a legend. I can only think of one example that worked thanks to the NFL having to sell merchandise. Landry to Johnson

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    It’s impossible to be the person who succeeds a legend. I can only think of one example that worked thanks to the NFL having to sell merchandise. Landry to Johnson

    You're right. But geez, at least increase the poor guy's chance of success with him having a background of a successful offensive or defensive coordinator, or successful major college football head coach. That is usually the gold standard for hiring a rookie head coach in the NFL.

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek said:

    @2dueces said:
    It’s impossible to be the person who succeeds a legend. I can only think of one example that worked thanks to the NFL having to sell merchandise. Landry to Johnson

    You're right. But geez, at least increase the poor guy's chance of success with him having a background of a successful offensive or defensive coordinator, or successful major college football head coach. That is usually the gold standard for hiring a rookie head coach in the NFL.

    I’m hoping he has some success in the transition. With the promise in his contract the Patriots avoided the Rooney rule. Maybe a two year stay so Vrabel wasn’t the reliever and then can come in and turn the franchise around. I still believe Vrabel will coach the patriots

    W.C.Fields
    "I spent 50% of my money on alcohol, women, and gambling. The other half I wasted.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Tabe said:

    @stevek said:
    I realize that Mike Singletary took a similar career path. I can't compare the two because I don't know Mayo at all. But I've watched documentaries on Singletary. Highly intelligent, tireless worker, extremely dedicated, and phenomenal tutelage under the great Buddy Ryan who adored him. And despite all that, Singletary had a short fair-poor NFL head coaching career.

    Maybe this situation will turn out different. We shall see.

    Singletary ended up being a clown as a coach. He freaking dropped his trousers at halftime in the locker room of his first game.

    i didn't follow it that closely, but I recall Singletary having a few weird moments at press conferences, etc.

    Bottom line - Yes Singletary was a student of Buddy Ryan, and executed Buddy's game plans to perfection on arguably the greatest NFL single season team of all time. But there is a big difference in executing a game plan versus creating a game plan.

    Reminds me a bit of almost any profession, but I'll use music as an example. Big difference between playing a song and writing a song. A lot of musicians can sometimes actually play a song technically better than the original songwriter. However when they try to write songs, the vast majority of them miserably fail.

    Mayo likely is a straight shooter and motivated guy, and there are reasons that Kraft hired him. I'm sure that Kraft will mention those reasons during the press conference to introduce Mayo as the new head coach.

    i'm also sure that in the team meetings as a player, Mayo would come up with some interesting ideas for plays, etc. But coming up with some plays at a specific position and creating a successful game plan for the entire team is like day and night. An entirely different skill set.

    Perhaps Mayo is capable of learning quickly and doing it. We shall see.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 5,897 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    It’s impossible to be the person who succeeds a legend. I can only think of one example that worked thanks to the NFL having to sell merchandise. Landry to Johnson

    George Seifert had 8 straight 10-win seasons and won 2 Super Bowls succeeding Bill Walsh.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    https://www.patriots.com/news/transcript-robert-kraft-and-jerod-mayo-press-conference-1-17

    Transcript: Robert Kraft and Jerod Mayo Press Conference 1/17

    "My calling is to be a teacher and to develop people and help them see pretty much what they don't want to see but they need to see, so my job has always been -- that is my calling."

    Gee, I thought his job was to win football games? I guess the NFL must have had a recent rule change that game scores will no longer be kept. Everyone plays and gets a participation trophy. 😆

    Sorry Patriots fans, I can't see this hiring of Jerod Mayo ending well. But we shall see.

  • HidhoeHidhoe Posts: 260 ✭✭✭

    @stevek said:
    https://www.patriots.com/news/transcript-robert-kraft-and-jerod-mayo-press-conference-1-17

    Transcript: Robert Kraft and Jerod Mayo Press Conference 1/17

    "My calling is to be a teacher

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,821 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said: It’s impossible to be the person who succeeds a legend.

    Blanton Collier would beg to differ, he did OK following Paul Brown. His coaching career was cut short because he was essentially deaf at the end.

  • spacehaydukespacehayduke Posts: 5,414 ✭✭✭✭✭

    On the flip side of the coin, Pittsburg has managed to be good for decades, winning SB's, and the new coaches come in and do just as well as the previous one, even if some are down on Tomlin right now. So it is possible, but it takes strong long term management and infrastructure that is capable of get the right players on board. Teams that got it, the coach can always do well. So is that the Pats or was it just a Brady-Belichick thing, one time deal? So maybe gimme the Mayo? We will see............


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  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 9,961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:
    It is always hard to follow a legend. lots of pressure and big shoes to fill for Mayo

    less difficult when your legend has spent 4 years filling his diaper with losses

  • bronco2078bronco2078 Posts: 9,961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Hidhoe said:

    @stevek said:
    https://www.patriots.com/news/transcript-robert-kraft-and-jerod-mayo-press-conference-1-17

    Transcript: Robert Kraft and Jerod Mayo Press Conference 1/17

    "My calling is to be a teacher

    anyone who doesnt call it a bubbler is braindead
    who wants a water fountain that only shoots water 6 inches at a 45 degree angle?

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