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Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 10, 2024 10:20PM in World & Ancient Coins Forum

I just got a pretty eclectic submission back from PCGS. A couple observations from this one:

  • Turnaround was pretty great actually. Received at PCGS on 11/16/2023, back to me on 01/09/2024. Everything was logged into their system quickly and moved along with no hold ups anywhere. TrueViews were ready shortly after grades became available.
  • I had a customer service question - I wanted to make sure my voucher was applied. This was answered over a few days via email. No stress.
  • TrueViews are not as good as in the past. Noticed this in my most recent past submission as well. The pictures are accurate but not all that much better than what I think I can do on my own....

Anyway, on to the coins!

In the past, I got intrigued by this modern wildman representation from Thale am Harz in Germany made in 1921 as notgeld, or emergency money after WWI in Germany. This is a quarter sized piece made of zinc.

Neat motif, but the zinc had oxidized a bit. So I was looking for a new piece, and some of the other coins in this same series. Anyway, I bid on a set of these - unseen! - from a foreign auction and here is what I got!

Anyway, neat little group in great condition. I wonder who saved these coins and when? As you can sort of appreciate, some of these are almost proof like with some frosted features and mirrored fields.

The same sale also had some of these same coins in silver - which I haven't seen much before (just one of the 50 pfennig Wildman in a Stack's auction recently). There was a complete set, but I won two of these - the toning makes these a lot more beautiful!

If anyone has a silver 25 pfennig piece let me know!

These pieces are pretty far off the regular numismatic path, but I get a kick out of them. Post your notgeld!

My current "Box of 20"



  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,194 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 11, 2024 3:38AM

    Great stuff! I had one of those Thale/Harz with the cat- as a cat lover, that was a must-have type for me. Nice to see you have a toned one!

    I particularly like your piece with the stag, as well. Notgeld could be habit-forming for me, if I wasn’t into so much other stuff.

    Like you, I have noticed a downturn in the quality of TrueView images in the past year or two, but they’re still a quantum leap beyond anything I could produce myself.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,194 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PS- I just looked up your two cats… MS67 on both! Wow. I was happy just to score a 64 on the one I had. It was a relatively inexpensive purchase.

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  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,354 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 13, 2024 7:50AM

    Very pretty. I like 'em-designs and especially the attractive toning on some. I like the cat, witch and wildman best.

    Not surprising that the nice examples are found overseas and the lesser one found it's way here. A good reason to shop worldwide.

    I know that many German states/cities issued metallic notgeld but was always under the impression that the numbers of different states and varieties for the metallic types was much smaller than the numbers of paper currency issues. Does anyone know how many German and/or Austrian locations issued coins or tokens and approximately how many different designs exist for the WW1 and post WW1 period? Also, how many issued encased postage?

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • Bob13Bob13 Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @sellitstore - I know so little about these kinds of coins. This series caught my eye as a modern Wildman offshoot. I know there is a reference - Funck, here - but I believe it is only in German.

    @lordmarcovan - I really don't know about the grades on these. In other words, unlike say, a Morgan dollar, I can't really tell why some of these are 63s and some are 67s. The 2 Mark in silver is stunning in hand though! I would love to find a 25 pfennig in silver! (The sale I acquired these from had a 10 and 5 pfennig in silver, but no 25).

    Finally, there are a couple 1923 DoppleTalers from the same region I would like to get my hands on....

    My current "Box of 20"

  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 22,657 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terrific coins- I like them. I have not had much luck seeing these so I don't have much to add

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  • PBRatPBRat Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭
    edited January 24, 2024 8:49PM

    Very nice purchase and submission. There's lots to like about German Notgeld.

  • Paper notgeld are also fascinating. I'm not a collector (yet?) but there's so much variety, so many interesting stories, some with amazing artwork.

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