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jkrkjkrk Posts: 948 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited January 8, 2024 3:56PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Wrong pew.

TY.

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  • knovak1976knovak1976 Posts: 200 ✭✭✭

    @lermish said:
    I want those also and I already bid them to full CPG/PCGS value. Sorry.

    ;)

    I specifically put my ‘bid sniper’ in on those exact coins….so I will win at the last second…and you can’t do anything about it….🤔😂

  • orevilleoreville Posts: 11,755 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2024 10:54AM

    @jkrk said:
    I'm interested in the following coins in this weeks Heritage auction.. All DE's Should I have sent this to your Heritage e-mail?

    1861 MS 61 Rep
    1901 MS65 (5108)
    1902 MS60
    1905 MS61

    If u have a chance can u LMK your opinion of the coins. Graded properly?

    I am starting to believe that the prices on the TPG coins will slip a bit due to concern that they are over graded relative to CACG?

    Thoughts?

    TY.

    Oh all Double eagles!

    A Collectors Universe poster since 1997!
  • mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jkrk said:
    I'm interested in the following coins in this weeks Heritage auction.. All DE's Should I have sent this to your Heritage e-mail?

    1861 MS 61 Rep
    1901 MS65 (5108)
    1902 MS60
    1905 MS61

    If u have a chance can u LMK your opinion of the coins. Graded properly?

    I am starting to believe that the prices on the TPG coins will slip a bit due to concern that they are over graded relative to CACG?

    Thoughts?

    TY.

    I'm curious why you think CACG is any different than PCGS or NGC graded coins. CACG is no more than a single opinion just as the others. The old CAC sticker was a affirmation given on the original slab(2 opinions on the same slab)... JMHO

    Mark

  • FrazFraz Posts: 1,527 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:
    See my PM. And next time, PM or email me the particulars, instead of starting a thread. ;)

    Jus’ shon’ awf.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,249 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @mark_dak said:

    @jkrk said:
    I'm interested in the following coins in this weeks Heritage auction.. All DE's Should I have sent this to your Heritage e-mail?

    1861 MS 61 Rep
    1901 MS65 (5108)
    1902 MS60
    1905 MS61

    If u have a chance can u LMK your opinion of the coins. Graded properly?

    I am starting to believe that the prices on the TPG coins will slip a bit due to concern that they are over graded relative to CACG?

    Thoughts?

    TY.

    I'm curious why you think CACG is any different than PCGS or NGC graded coins. CACG is no more than a single opinion just as the others. The old CAC sticker was a affirmation given on the original slab(2 opinions on the same slab)... JMHO

    Mark

    See the CAC threads for details.

    The general sentiment is that CACG is being stricter and paying more attraction to things like friction. As such a CACG 63 might be worth more than a PCGS 63.

    [Although I'm not sure why the OP seems to be implying that the PCGS price would be going down rather than simply a premium being paid for CACG.]

  • WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 663 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mark_dak said:

    @jkrk said:
    I'm interested in the following coins in this weeks Heritage auction.. All DE's Should I have sent this to your Heritage e-mail?

    1861 MS 61 Rep
    1901 MS65 (5108)
    1902 MS60
    1905 MS61

    If u have a chance can u LMK your opinion of the coins. Graded properly?

    I am starting to believe that the prices on the TPG coins will slip a bit due to concern that they are over graded relative to CACG?

    Thoughts?

    TY.

    I'm curious why you think CACG is any different than PCGS or NGC graded coins. CACG is no more than a single opinion just as the others. The old CAC sticker was a affirmation given on the original slab(2 opinions on the same slab)... JMHO

    Mark

    See the CAC threads for details.

    The general sentiment is that CACG is being stricter and paying more attraction to things like friction. As such a CACG 63 might be worth more than a PCGS 63.

    [Although I'm not sure why the OP seems to be implying that the PCGS price would be going down rather than simply a premium being paid for CACG.]

    No different than a PCGS CAC 63 being worth more than a PCGS 63

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mark_dak said:

    @jkrk said:
    I'm interested in the following coins in this weeks Heritage auction.. All DE's Should I have sent this to your Heritage e-mail?

    1861 MS 61 Rep
    1901 MS65 (5108)
    1902 MS60
    1905 MS61

    If u have a chance can u LMK your opinion of the coins. Graded properly?

    I am starting to believe that the prices on the TPG coins will slip a bit due to concern that they are over graded relative to CACG?

    Thoughts?

    TY.

    I'm curious why you think CACG is any different than PCGS or NGC graded coins. CACG is no more than a single opinion just as the others. The old CAC sticker was a affirmation given on the original slab(2 opinions on the same slab)... JMHO

    Mark

    See the CAC threads for details.

    The general sentiment is that CACG is being stricter and paying more attraction to things like friction. As such a CACG 63 might be worth more than a PCGS 63.

    [Although I'm not sure why the OP seems to be implying that the PCGS price would be going down rather than simply a premium being paid for CACG.]

    I’ve seen posts which opine that one of the unintended consequences of CAC is the decline in value of non-CAC coins. Of course, I don’t know how someone can ascertain whether CAC coins trade at a premium or non-CAC coins trade at a discount (or both).😉

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,249 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2024 3:03PM

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mark_dak said:

    @jkrk said:
    I'm interested in the following coins in this weeks Heritage auction.. All DE's Should I have sent this to your Heritage e-mail?

    1861 MS 61 Rep
    1901 MS65 (5108)
    1902 MS60
    1905 MS61

    If u have a chance can u LMK your opinion of the coins. Graded properly?

    I am starting to believe that the prices on the TPG coins will slip a bit due to concern that they are over graded relative to CACG?

    Thoughts?

    TY.

    I'm curious why you think CACG is any different than PCGS or NGC graded coins. CACG is no more than a single opinion just as the others. The old CAC sticker was a affirmation given on the original slab(2 opinions on the same slab)... JMHO

    Mark

    See the CAC threads for details.

    The general sentiment is that CACG is being stricter and paying more attraction to things like friction. As such a CACG 63 might be worth more than a PCGS 63.

    [Although I'm not sure why the OP seems to be implying that the PCGS price would be going down rather than simply a premium being paid for CACG.]

    I’ve seen posts which opine that one of the unintended consequences of CAC is the decline in value of non-CAC coins. Of course, I don’t know how someone can ascertain whether CAC coins trade at a premium or non-CAC coins trade at a discount (or both).😉

    Agreed. But it's not exactly logical to me. A PCGS 63, with all the problems they may or may not have, has a price now. Why would that price change just because a CACG is (allegedly) superior?

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mark_dak said:

    @jkrk said:
    I'm interested in the following coins in this weeks Heritage auction.. All DE's Should I have sent this to your Heritage e-mail?

    1861 MS 61 Rep
    1901 MS65 (5108)
    1902 MS60
    1905 MS61

    If u have a chance can u LMK your opinion of the coins. Graded properly?

    I am starting to believe that the prices on the TPG coins will slip a bit due to concern that they are over graded relative to CACG?

    Thoughts?

    TY.

    I'm curious why you think CACG is any different than PCGS or NGC graded coins. CACG is no more than a single opinion just as the others. The old CAC sticker was a affirmation given on the original slab(2 opinions on the same slab)... JMHO

    Mark

    See the CAC threads for details.

    The general sentiment is that CACG is being stricter and paying more attraction to things like friction. As such a CACG 63 might be worth more than a PCGS 63.

    [Although I'm not sure why the OP seems to be implying that the PCGS price would be going down rather than simply a premium being paid for CACG.]

    I’ve seen posts which opine that one of the unintended consequences of CAC is the decline in value of non-CAC coins. Of course, I don’t know how someone can ascertain whether CAC coins trade at a premium or non-CAC coins trade at a discount (or both).😉

    Agreed. But it's not exactly logical to me. A PCGS 63, with all the problems they may or may not have, has a price now. Why would that price change just because a CACG is (allegedly) superior.

    I agree.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • pointfivezeropointfivezero Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Hey Mark - I'm interested in a couple of coins too. Can you provide your opinion:

    :)

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    1881-S $1 MS65 PCGS. Gold CAC. PCGS Population: (58787/18465). NGC Census: (57820/23933). CDN: $165 Whsle. Bid for NGC/P... Morgan Dollars:
    1881-S $1 MS65 PCGS. Gold CAC. PCGS Population: (58787/18465). NGC Census: (57820/23933). CDN: $165 Whsle. Bid for NGC/PCGS...(PCGS# 7130) --
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    1937-D 50C Oregon MS65 PCGS. Gold CAC. PCGS Population: (1010/2162). NGC Census: (543/1598). CDN: $240 Whsle. Bid for NG... Commemorative Silver
    1937-D 50C Oregon MS65 PCGS. Gold CAC. PCGS Population: (1010/2162). NGC Census: (543/1598). CDN: $240 Whsle. Bid for NGC/P...(PCGS# 9347) --
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    Tim

  • pointfivezeropointfivezero Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    Tim, don’t sweat it. In order to save us both time and trouble, I’ve placed unlimited bids for you on 9 of the coins. After the sale has ended, I’ll let you know which ones and how much you owe.😉

    LOL, checking my wife's life insurance policy now. :(

    Tim

  • pointfivezeropointfivezero Posts: 1,576 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @pointfivezero said:

    @MFeld said:

    Tim, don’t sweat it. In order to save us both time and trouble, I’ve placed unlimited bids for you on 9 of the coins. After the sale has ended, I’ll let you know which ones and how much you owe.😉

    LOL, checking my wife's life insurance policy now. :(

    Tim

    If she sees these posts, she’ll be checking YOUR life insurance policy.🫢

    If so, she'll know for a fact I'm worth more dead than alive....

    T

  • MrEurekaMrEureka Posts: 23,827 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MFeld said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @mark_dak said:

    @jkrk said:
    I'm interested in the following coins in this weeks Heritage auction.. All DE's Should I have sent this to your Heritage e-mail?

    1861 MS 61 Rep
    1901 MS65 (5108)
    1902 MS60
    1905 MS61

    If u have a chance can u LMK your opinion of the coins. Graded properly?

    I am starting to believe that the prices on the TPG coins will slip a bit due to concern that they are over graded relative to CACG?

    Thoughts?

    TY.

    I'm curious why you think CACG is any different than PCGS or NGC graded coins. CACG is no more than a single opinion just as the others. The old CAC sticker was a affirmation given on the original slab(2 opinions on the same slab)... JMHO

    Mark

    See the CAC threads for details.

    The general sentiment is that CACG is being stricter and paying more attraction to things like friction. As such a CACG 63 might be worth more than a PCGS 63.

    [Although I'm not sure why the OP seems to be implying that the PCGS price would be going down rather than simply a premium being paid for CACG.]

    I’ve seen posts which opine that one of the unintended consequences of CAC is the decline in value of non-CAC coins. Of course, I don’t know how someone can ascertain whether CAC coins trade at a premium or non-CAC coins trade at a discount (or both).😉

    It's easy. Look at the coins. If the CAC coin looks overpriced for what it is, it trades at a premium. And if the non-CAC coin looks like a bargain for what it is, it trades at a discount. B)

    Andy Lustig

    Doggedly collecting coins of the Central American Republic.

    Visit the Society of US Pattern Collectors at USPatterns.com.
  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,358 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:

    @jkrk said:
    I'm interested in the following coins in this weeks Heritage auction.. All DE's Should I have sent this to your Heritage e-mail?

    1861 MS 61 Rep
    1901 MS65 (5108)
    1902 MS60
    1905 MS61

    If u have a chance can u LMK your opinion of the coins. Graded properly?

    I am starting to believe that the prices on the TPG coins will slip a bit due to concern that they are over graded relative to CACG?

    Thoughts?

    TY.

    Well, at least now I know the lots to bid up!

    That can be a dangerous game to play.

    Collector and dealer in obsolete currency. Always buying all obsolete bank notes and scrip.
  • fiftysevenerfiftysevener Posts: 892 ✭✭✭✭

    Wow what a strange thread !

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