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Is the toning on this war nickel really that good?

I've been slowly buying nice examples of the war nickels, I'm usually more interested in as little toning as possible, but this one I just can't wrap my head around. I have to believe that those interested in toning see something that escapes me, but even then I am astounded by the price. I mean the steps are not great, the rim damage is more than I would like, and I guess I just don't see it. Is this toning really that spectacular?
https://greatcollections.com/Coin/1503397/1945-P-Jefferson-Nickel-PCGS-MS-67-FS-Toned

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  • MapsOnFireMapsOnFire Posts: 170 ✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2024 9:21AM

    It's just not for you.

  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You can check PCGS's certification lookup to see if there are better images.
    In this case, there is really delicate rainbow above Monticello that don't appear on GC.
    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/48092476

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 5,665 ✭✭✭✭✭

    it is the grade - https://pcgs.com/cert/48092476

  • @Weiss said:
    You can check PCGS's certification lookup to see if there are better images.
    In this case, there is really delicate rainbow above Monticello that don't appear on GC.
    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/48092476

    Thanks, indeed I had not checked there. I see from the Pop higher that this isn't strictly a toning factor.

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,245 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a 67 full steps. The price has nothing to do with the toning. Greysheet is $2750

  • ElmerFusterpuckElmerFusterpuck Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A 45-P in MS-67 full steps is pretty scarce. That being said, that particular coin wouldn't qualify as FS to me. The toning is pleasant, but not out of this world.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,847 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Do you really want to spend that kind of money on a common date coin?

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  • @ElmerFusterpuck said:
    A 45-P in MS-67 full steps is pretty scarce. That being said, that particular coin wouldn't qualify as FS to me. The toning is pleasant, but not out of this world.

    I'd agree on the FS, while the number of war nickels with FS I have looked at only numbers in the many hundreds, I would be confident saying this is the most questionable PCGS FS I've seen.

  • jesbrokenjesbroken Posts: 8,998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree with the replies concerning the full step designation. That alone would prevent me from buying this coin, but had the steps been acceptable to me, the coin's price would be inline. JMO
    Jim


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  • FredSFredS Posts: 59 ✭✭✭

    It is nearly impossible to judge FS from an image.

  • @jesbroken said:
    I agree with the replies concerning the full step designation. That alone would prevent me from buying this coin, but had the steps been acceptable to me, the coin's price would be inline. JMO
    Jim

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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Registry Set points cost a ton of money......I believe this is what you're seeing here or there. Someone is likely thinking if they don't get that + label, that someone else will blow right by them with it in the standings/that contest. A perfectly harmless game for some folks to play in if they can afford to do so. It's probably really uplifting!
    Here's one for that date I acquired in the last 2-3 years. Had the dies taken on a bit more wear, the steps would have been stronger. But I love the strike, luster and toning inspite of the weak steps and for only $55. lol

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  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 10,616 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:
    You can check PCGS's certification lookup to see if there are better images.
    In this case, there is really delicate rainbow above Monticello that don't appear on GC.
    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/48092476

    The great photo available on GC does capture that color very well. However, there is no way that qualifies as a FS coin.

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  • knovak1976knovak1976 Posts: 200 ✭✭✭
    edited January 8, 2024 10:55AM

    🤔

  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,334 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 14, 2024 5:40AM

    Not only are the steps questionable, the overall strike, deep hairlines, sharp details on the Monticello, square-top digits and more are lacking on the coin especially at the MS67 plateau.
    But I posted the wrong date in my previous post, a 1944-P which is just as difficult to locate with a bullet strike as the 1945-P.
    The War dates; 1943-P,1944-P, 1945-P and the 1944-S and 1945-S have taken more of my time locating them with a bullet strike.
    But the coin at hand, it's likely the best the bidders have seen so....to each their own.

    Leo

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  • leothelyonleothelyon Posts: 8,334 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here is another one if the last two didn't settle well with you. A coin I picked up in April 2022.

    Leo

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  • silviosisilviosi Posts: 444 ✭✭✭

    The question about if it is an real tonning??? The answer it is YES.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,356 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That is not the type of toning that brings big money. A 67 FS is what brought the money.

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  • Clackamas1Clackamas1 Posts: 695 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not bad but a fair coin.

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