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An old die for minting…what?

SimonWSimonW Posts: 572 ✭✭✭✭✭

This may not belong in this forum, but since I have no idea what it is, it maybe could?! 😂

Anyone have any clue what this is? Bought it years ago with a few other dies. The others were all American tokens or medallions (one from WWI, it’s WAY cool!) But this one…stumped. Might be a range? Any thoughts or ideas are appreciated.



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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 11,820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What is the diameter? Quarter sized 24.26mm or just under an inch?

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  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    What is the diameter? Quarter sized 24.26mm or just under an inch?

    Just under dime size

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like some sort of wax seal stamp - machined from hot rolled steel which is easier to machine (softer) and wouldn't hold up very long if it was used as an actual metal die.

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you @steven59 That’s the best answer, I hadn’t thought of that!

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  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The only thing that doesn’t quite track for me is the impact marks on the back side. Seems like it was hammered pretty hard many times.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    A lot of these sorts of dies were also made for making buttons or jewelry.

  • Namvet69Namvet69 Posts: 8,602 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Maybe the symbolic sunrise over the twin peaks/ saddleback is the big clue? Peace Roy

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  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Those "mountains" are raised, right?
    Just a WAG, but perhaps this was the backing die for some sort of embossed token, or button for that matter, where the metal was pushed forwards into a much more detailed, and perhaps lettered, "obverse" die.

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  • JBKJBK Posts: 14,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Yes, I'm actually pretty certain the above scenario is the answer.

  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    Those "mountains" are raised, right?
    Just a WAG, but perhaps this was the backing die for some sort of embossed token, or button for that matter, where the metal was pushed forwards into a much more detailed, and perhaps lettered, "obverse" die.

    This makes a lot of sense. Yes, it’s positive. The other die may have had other design elements that were unnecessary to put on the back die…like lettering. The only things important were the larger elements.

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  • SimonWSimonW Posts: 572 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had been thinking it might be a button, didn’t consider that it was the backside of the stamped face.

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