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1851-O Seated Liberty Half

Coming back for everyone's valued advice as I am just getting back into collecting. Any red flags go off for this 1851-O seated liberty half. There is some toning going on, hopefully natural. Not an expert with these. Seller is saying it is XF, but that's subjective. What do you all think. Appreciate the feedback

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  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It’s a better date coin. The toning appears probably secondary but natural.
    I’m more concerned about the scratches and little marks all over the obverse.
    If you need the date for an album set and the price is low enough, its ok. If you’re looking for a type coin example I’d probably pass.

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  • Apollo_23Apollo_23 Posts: 115 ✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:
    It’s a better date coin. The toning appears probably secondary but natural.
    I’m more concerned about the scratches and little marks all over the obverse.
    If you need the date for an album set and the price is low enough, its ok. If you’re looking for a type coin example I’d probably pass.

    Thank you. It certainly is not low

  • OwnerofawheatiehordeOwnerofawheatiehorde Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    XF details, I would pass due to the damage at Liberty’s chest area.

    Type collector, mainly into Seated. Young Numismatist. Good BST transactions with: mirabela, OKCC, MICHAELDIXON

  • MFeldMFeld Posts: 11,622 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Ownerofawheatiehorde said:
    XF details, I would pass due to the damage at Liberty’s chest area.

    The right obverse field looks rough, as well.

    Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 23,843 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Pass. Far too many marks for a coin of that grade. It should be sold at a steep discount, not a premium.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • CrepidoderaCrepidodera Posts: 164 ✭✭✭✭

    I'd pass on that example if I were you. Very rough surfaces, and secondary toning.

    Doug

  • Apollo_23Apollo_23 Posts: 115 ✭✭✭

    @Crepidodera said:
    I'd pass on that example if I were you. Very rough surfaces, and secondary toning.

    Doug

    I passed. It shot up and ending selling for over $500

  • OwnerofawheatiehordeOwnerofawheatiehorde Posts: 1,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Apollo_23 said:

    @Crepidodera said:
    I'd pass on that example if I were you. Very rough surfaces, and secondary toning.

    Doug

    I passed. It shot up and ending selling for over $500

    That's over VF-35 price, pretty crazy.

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  • Farmer1961Farmer1961 Posts: 156 ✭✭✭

    The scratches on the obverse would most likely get it bagged fir tooling

  • Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,045 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Apollo_23 said:

    @Crepidodera said:
    I'd pass on that example if I were you. Very rough surfaces, and secondary toning.

    Doug

    I passed. It shot up and ending selling for over $500

    I have GOT to start selling on eBay….assuming that was the venue.

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  • Apollo_23Apollo_23 Posts: 115 ✭✭✭

    @Walkerguy21D said:

    @Apollo_23 said:

    @Crepidodera said:
    I'd pass on that example if I were you. Very rough surfaces, and secondary toning.

    Doug

    I passed. It shot up and ending selling for over $500

    I have GOT to start selling on eBay….assuming that was the venue.

    Indeed it was. What I do not get for instance, coins from PCGS that are graded, have a value and I see them selling for 1-2 above their value. Is this normal? Are the prices not up to date? Value is say 350, they sell for 5-550. Crazy

  • seatedlib3991seatedlib3991 Posts: 398 ✭✭✭✭

    Seated half dollars did a jump of about 20 to 40 percent in value over the last 2 years. Some coins go for far more than I
    would value them. You dodged a bullet in my opinion. This is a great date but that coin had a fist full of question marks around it. james

  • Apollo_23Apollo_23 Posts: 115 ✭✭✭

    @seatedlib3991 said:
    Seated half dollars did a jump of about 20 to 40 percent in value over the last 2 years. Some coins go for far more than I
    would value them. You dodged a bullet in my opinion. This is a great date but that coin had a fist full of question marks around it. james

    Thanks James. Glad I did not pull the trigger on that. Sure I can find better type coins for the money

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Apollo_23 I realize you're long past this coin, but the right obverse field is a key area to look for marks in this series. As you can see in your original post, it's a disaster area that you'll want to avoid in the future. Here's a list of CoinFacts images that might be helpful as you determine grading for this date: https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1851-o-50c/images/6267

    This date often comes ugly and my AU53 CAC example fits that description:

    Yet the eagle's claws are well struck which can be a weak point for New Orleans minted coins in the series.

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  • Apollo_23Apollo_23 Posts: 115 ✭✭✭

    @Catbert said:
    @Apollo_23 I realize you're long past this coin, but the right obverse field is a key area to look for marks in this series. As you can see in your original post, it's a disaster area that you'll want to avoid in the future. Here's a list of CoinFacts images that might be helpful as you determine grading for this date: https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1851-o-50c/images/6267

    This date often comes ugly and my AU53 CAC example fits that description:

    Yet the eagle's claws are well struck which can be a weak point for New Orleans minted coins in the series.

    Thank you for the information. Sure glad I passed on that coin!!

  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 2,943 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Agree, it's XF details.

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