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Do you know anyone who's used steroids?

doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

Steroids are an interesting topic, take Vince McMahon for instance, he was a known steroids user for years and years, he is in his 60s in this photo. But now that he has quit taking them, his appearance is pretty awful looking.

On steroids

Off steroids

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  • DarinDarin Posts: 6,247 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Playing softball there was a pitcher on a neighboring town team who was on steroids. The funny thing was, he was a really bad hitter on or off steroids. Usually hit weak grounders. Slowest bat speed ever. All bulked up and he was terrible and this was slow pitch softball.

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  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Some of that probably has to do with age, but I've heard that when you take them for a long time and then stop, it can have a dramatic effect on your body as you age, your appearance, it catches up to you.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Steve Austin used steroids for years, and you can tell it has had an effect on his body since he stopped using them.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Darin said:
    Playing softball there was a pitcher on a neighboring town team who was on steroids. The funny thing was, he was a really bad hitter on or off steroids. Usually hit weak grounders. Slowest bat speed ever. All bulked up and he was terrible and this was slow pitch softball.

    I've never understood the concept of even wanting to use steroids, if I couldn't accomplish greatness naturally then I wouldn't want to do it at all, that's just me.

  • pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 439 ✭✭✭

    Quite possibly - muscle bound - having muscles that are too developed and make it difficult to move normally

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just can't get over how steroids transforms your body, I mean just look at the difference in Barry Bonds.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No steroids that I know of. But in my high school, amphetamines were a plague.

    The sad thing is a number of those who were known pill poppers, died at a too early age. Interesting that perhaps the worst abuser of them all, he was high on drugs like 24/7 it seemed, amphetamines and who knows what else, is still alive. An illustration of how even deadly drugs can have aberrations in the mortality rates simply due to genetics.

    For example some young people overdose and drop dead from one hit of fentanyl. While others can tolerate its use many times.

    I've never used a single amphetamine in my life, and never will.

    No steroids for me either, although if the devil spoke to me and said, Steve, take steroids and you'll hit 80 home runs for the Phillies and sign the largest contract in sports history, I might be tempted. 😉

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've probably mentioned this before, but I have a neighbor, woman in her 60s, who is addicted to narcotic painkillers and she purposely hurts herself so she can get them from her doctor, she'll bust herself up just to get them. She has tried numerous times to kick the habit and she did pretty good for a while, but she always falls right back into it. It's really sad to see, and we've tried to help her, but the painkillers just have a grip on her that she can't seem to break. As a matter of fact she was back at her doctor two days ago, she said that she fell down, but I know what's up, I'm not stupid, she's just trying to get some more painkillers, and of course she came back with a prescription for Percocet. I've walked with her to a yard sale on a few occasions and she walks faster and better than me, so there's no way she's falling down all the time at home. She'll get stoned and call us and you can tell she's doped up by the way she's talking. It's really sad to see her go through this. Her doctor isn't helping matters either, she manipulates him by sounding pitiful and he'll cave and write her a prescription. It's a process that has kept repeating itself over and over for years now, you would think her doctor would recognize that she's addicted and put a stop to it. One time she busted her wrist up and claimed she fell down, really sad. I've made a vow to never let them out me on painkillers, when I was in the hospital a while back for my gallbladder surgery, they tried to give me a morphine drip and I told them to go pound sand, I'm not getting hooked on that crap.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    I've probably mentioned this before, but I have a neighbor, woman in her 60s, who is addicted to narcotic painkillers and she purposely hurts herself so she can get them from her doctor, she'll bust herself up just to get them. She has tried numerous times to kick the habit and she did pretty good for a while, but she always falls right back into it. It's really sad to see, and we've tried to help her, but the painkillers just have a grip on her that she can't seem to break. As a matter of fact she was back at her doctor two days ago, she said that she fell down, but I know what's up, I'm not stupid, she's just trying to get some more painkillers, and of course she came back with a prescription for Percocet. I've walked with her to a yard sale on a few occasions and she walks faster and better than me, so there's no way she's falling down all the time at home. She'll get stoned and call us and you can tell she's doped up by the way she's talking. It's really sad to see her go through this. Her doctor isn't helping matters either, she manipulates him by sounding pitiful and he'll cave and write her a prescription. It's a process that has kept repeating itself over and over for years now, you would think her doctor would recognize that she's addicted and put a stop to it. One time she busted her wrist up and claimed she fell down, really sad. I've made a vow to never let them out me on painkillers, when I was in the hospital a while back for my gallbladder surgery, they tried to give me a morphine drip and I told them to go pound sand, I'm not getting hooked on that crap.

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    I had a brutal kidney stone back in 2009. Measured 8mm x 14mm, I still have it, i kept it for some bizarre reason. The urologist said it was "unlikely" it was going to pass without surgery, and the way he said unlikely, he may as well have said never.

    Anyway no further details about that, but early on I was prescribed a painkiller thru my request. I can't recall the name, it wasn't the infamous oxycodone, but a step below that. Well I only asked for it because I wasn't sure how painful it might get, because i hate painkillers.

    Anyway, it took around 90 days to finally pass the dam stone, and there were some bad days, a few very bad, but I'm glad I never opened the painkiller bottle. What helped was I quickly changed my diet to a pure anti-inflammation diet, including a lot of olive oil which is one of the healthiest foods on the planet. So doing that certainly eased the pain and made the situation more tolerable.

    BTW - the urologist and none of his assistants ever said a word about this solution. He doesn't make money prescribing olive oil. I found this solution on some internet forums, similar in format to this one, and I couldn't thank them enough for their posted info.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have never used gear, but I know a guy who does. he has tried a number of different steroids, and almost all have given him great results. he is in his 50s now, and is still pretty shredded. He has told me stories though about one steroid he will never take again. it is called Trenbolone. Tren for short. he said you are only supposed to cycle on for 3 weeks at a time and never more. He said he felt so good on it he didnt want to stop. He felt super strong, super smart, virile, almost like a teenager he said. felt like he could literally run through a wall. He said by the 5th week, he was not himself anymore. not even close. His wife said it was like he turned into a werewolf or something. He said he only wanted to eat, exercise and ****. not necessarily in that order. He said he felt VERY territorial towards women and wanted to fight the men. The final straw was when they were at a club one night and a guy copped a feel of his wifes behind. he said he went ape and it took 4 men to get him off the other guy. My acquaintance said that he went into such a rage that he seriously wanted to beat the guy to within an inch of his life and then r**e him afterward. he said after that when he got home he realized he needed to cycle off Tren. He said he will never use that steroid again.

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @stevek, I've been fortunate enough not to have a kidney stone so far, but I know people who have and it sounds awful. Thank you for the olive oil information, I'm going to remember this, it may just come in handy someday. 👍

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44, Sounds like roid rage, I've heard about this numerous times. As a matter of fact, back in 2007, WWE wrestler Chris Benoit killed his wife and young son and then committed suicide, the suspected cause was roid rage, terrible tragedy.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Depending on the individual, steroids do work, and can definitely improve performance.

    Only one teensy-weensy tiny little problem, hardly worth mentioning. Steroids eat away and rot out your liver and kidneys. But hey, that's no big deal, as long as ya don't eat or drink anything.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @doubledragon said:
    @craig44, Sounds like roid rage, I've heard about this numerous times. As a matter of fact, back in 2007, WWE wrestler Chris Benoit killed his wife and young son and then committed suicide, the suspected cause was roid rage, terrible tragedy.

    yeah, exactly. interestingly, Tren is the only steroid that has ever had that effect on him. with all the others he supposedly has been fine.

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I actually did a little more research on Chris Benoit and it was discovered that he had severe CTE on his brain, the doctors that examined his brain said it was the worse case of CTE they had ever seen, his brain was damaged all the way throughout to the stem. That CTE stuff is scary as heck.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Here it is, the images showing the CTE on Benoit's brain, scary stuff.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    oh boy, those pictures of Benoits brain tissue are scary. makes you wonder about all of the nfl players.

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • DrBusterDrBuster Posts: 5,300 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder how my cte scan would turn out after 9 known concussions. Putting a rider in my will about donating my brain for study for it. I definitely have some of the...related issues.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @DrBuster said:
    I wonder how my cte scan would turn out after 9 known concussions. Putting a rider in my will about donating my brain for study for it. I definitely have some of the...related issues.

    There is all sorts of info available on the internet about this. Many say it's irreversible, but some say it can be reversed or at least treated to not get any worse.

    I'm in the camp of not giving up on it, to do what's possible to either stifle it or reverse it.

    However you're going to need to completely discipline yourself, and eliminate obvious unhealthy food and drink. and take the proper herbs, vitamins, and workable medicines available.

    Smoking and alcohol are obvious bad guys. But one of the worst foods available are trans fats. That chit is absolutely brutal, and there's a long list of popular foods that contain this basic poison. Eliminating trans fats by itself would be a good start.

  • doubledragondoubledragon Posts: 22,148 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You see boys, stay off the steroids, I don't want to see you shopping in the lingerie section at JC PENNEY some day.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 29, 2023 11:42AM

    I've known so many guys on steroids, when I was in my early 20's everyone was doing it, some took it serious and got jacked for sure while others just got big arms and partied too much.

    I came close to trying it but never did, I been hitting the gym since 1990 and actually started weights when I was 15 back in 1985, I never got jacked but in my prime at 185 pounds I got my bench up to a max of 340 and my squat to 425, I was shredded with a medium build, no traps or bulging muscle but strong AF, now at 53 I still hit it 6 days a week but can't heavy bench or squat anymore but I still have the same weight and belt size as my early 30's all my old friends that did the roids all have guts on them and don't work out at all anymore

    I think Test and small amounts of steroids as you get older can benefit you, I might do test at some point but for now I don't feel I need it, just a healthy diet and hit the gym a lot.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    I've known so many guys on steroids, when I was in my early 20's everyone was doing it, some took it serious and got jacked for sure while others just got big arms and partied too much.

    I came close to trying it but never did, I been hitting the gym since 1990 and actually started weights when I was 15 back in 1985, I never got jacked but in my prime at 185 pounds I got my bench up to a max of 340 and my squat to 425, I was shredded with a medium build, no traps or bulging muscle but strong AF, now at 53 I still hit it 6 days a week but can't heavy bench or squat anymore but I still have the same weight and belt size as my early 30's all my old friends that did the roids all have guts on them and don't work out at all anymore

    I think Test and small amounts of steroids as you get older can benefit you, I might do test at some point but for now I don't feel I need it, just a healthy diet and hit the gym a lot.

    WOW, benching 340 at 185 pounds is very impressive!! I topped out at 325 but weighed way more than 185. maybe I should have done steroids. I remember hitting the weights hard for a few years until a buddy of mine that lifted with me just blew past me. we were tracking really close for a long time, then he just lapped me. he topped out at a bench of 450! I guess i got discouraged and gave up on it. i dont think he ever used gear, I think he just had better genes than me. I guess he could have been juicing, but i really think he would have told me.

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @craig44 said:

    @perkdog said:
    I've known so many guys on steroids, when I was in my early 20's everyone was doing it, some took it serious and got jacked for sure while others just got big arms and partied too much.

    I came close to trying it but never did, I been hitting the gym since 1990 and actually started weights when I was 15 back in 1985, I never got jacked but in my prime at 185 pounds I got my bench up to a max of 340 and my squat to 425, I was shredded with a medium build, no traps or bulging muscle but strong AF, now at 53 I still hit it 6 days a week but can't heavy bench or squat anymore but I still have the same weight and belt size as my early 30's all my old friends that did the roids all have guts on them and don't work out at all anymore

    I think Test and small amounts of steroids as you get older can benefit you, I might do test at some point but for now I don't feel I need it, just a healthy diet and hit the gym a lot.

    WOW, benching 340 at 185 pounds is very impressive!! I topped out at 325 but weighed way more than 185. maybe I should have done steroids. I remember hitting the weights hard for a few years until a buddy of mine that lifted with me just blew past me. we were tracking really close for a long time, then he just lapped me. he topped out at a bench of 450! I guess i got discouraged and gave up on it. i dont think he ever used gear, I think he just had better genes than me. I guess he could have been juicing, but i really think he would have told me.

    I literally had it in me that nothing was stoping me from hitting 300 on the bench, part of the reason I never got big was I used to work out every day and literally bench 5 times a week lol, I sustained a 300 bench until about 43 then I just couldn't do it anymore.

    As you get older you lose a lot of burst power strength

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