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Ms63 1955 ddo Lincoln cent do you agree?

PppPpp Posts: 498 ✭✭✭✭
edited December 25, 2023 5:25AM in U.S. Coin Forum

I think this coin is over-graded.
Based off the picture what grade would you assign.

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  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It certainly has seen wear in my opinion but there is luster in the devices.... so, let me guess AU55?
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  • ifthevamzarockinifthevamzarockin Posts: 8,878 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Based on the provided photos I would guess AU-53 but may change my mind with better photos or a TrueView.

  • PerryHallPerryHall Posts: 46,152 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU55. Post some better pics and I may change my guess.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @PerryHall said:
    AU55. Post some better pics and I may change my guess.

    Ditto

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If you don't like it, don't buy it.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,331 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll take the over. Based on your concern, they probably gave it an uncirculated grade like MS62BN. But the wear around the ear tells a different story.
    AU55 by my standards (and by those photos)

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  • davewesendavewesen Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45

  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 1,950 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53 or 55.

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  • nwcoastnwcoast Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭✭✭

    45
    50 on a good day though the reverse appears better.

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,344 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ok I'll go au53

  • Klif50Klif50 Posts: 683 ✭✭✭✭

    AU 55

  • sellitstoresellitstore Posts: 2,879 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd be more generous and say AU58 but my guess is that it's in a 63 (or even 64) holder.
    I'm seeing no wear on reverse but just a touch of wear on obv. high points.

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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,659 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thinking it's either a 58 or a 62, it's a bit hard to judge from those photos.

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  • RayboRaybo Posts: 5,317 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Dull surfaces.
    My guess is cleaned, AU details.

  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The reverse side caught the chickenpox.

    AU58

  • Tom147Tom147 Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go with 58. Farmer1961 I disagree. Posts like this help all to of us to sharpen our grading skills, thus making us better at grading and possibly purchasing a raw coin without overpaying when it is indeed a raw coin without a slab to tell us what we think we know. So IMO, it does matter.

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,158 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Tough to grade from those photos since wear and lustre are a bit difficult to judge. I could see mid AU to low MS as being plausible.

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  • MartinMartin Posts: 970 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It would not be one I’d would buy. It’s a 53 if it straight grades. I don’t see anything obvious that would detail it. But it’s not in hand so I can’t be sure.

    Since you stated it’s over graded my guess is the PCGS grade is higher than 53.

    Martin

  • ConshyboyConshyboy Posts: 453 ✭✭✭✭

    60

  • PppPpp Posts: 498 ✭✭✭✭

    Merry Christmas

    My “not optimal” picture really affected the guesses.

    I recently started to buy from gc, which is a big leap for me because I do not buy off the internet. I always wanted an Ms 1955 ddo for my collection.

    Here is a nice picture from gc that I used when I bought it. I still think that it is slightly over graded even thou the coin was slabbed over 20 years ago. Does anyone still agree after looking at this new picture?

  • 1madman1madman Posts: 1,474 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The coin has the look of being originally full red and immediately pulled from circulation decades ago, then improperly placed in a musty damp safe which caused the film/haze surface layer to develop and turning it brown. It has the meat of an unc, but lacks the flash. It’s possible that the slab was stored in less than ideal conditions as well, because I currently like it as a 58, and it might have looked differently when originally graded.

  • lsicalsica Posts: 1,584 ✭✭✭✭

    MS61 IMHO. No wear visible wear so yup its MS, but I for sure wouldn't "choose" it out of a pile of other MSBN Lincolns, so I wouldn't call it "Choice" (MS63 is still "Choice Unc", isn't it?).

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,219 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The hair does not have a lot of definition, but it may be a weak strike. Nice solid gasket holder...the coin is not bad either. ;)

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  • RexfordRexford Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 26, 2023 12:22AM

    It looks fine as a low-end 63, with 62 as a worst case scenario. This forum has been and continues to be extremely tight on copper from what I’ve seen.

  • Farmer1961Farmer1961 Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    I think they graded it spot on. In fact I've seen them graded 64 with more marks. When yiu look at the surfaces they are few marks visible and many of these have hits on the reverse in the letters.

  • skier07skier07 Posts: 3,974 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t particularly care for the spotting especially on the reverse.

  • ambro51ambro51 Posts: 13,784 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You could probably get it nice and shiny with some toothpaste on a rag.

  • ConshyboyConshyboy Posts: 453 ✭✭✭✭

    Something tells me 63

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Conshyboy said:
    Something tells me 63

    Yeah, the title and the picture of the slab. >:)

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,899 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The spots might have grown on it post slabbing but the obverse rub didn't. Overgrade.


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  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,011 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So many of these have been color altered it is a pleasure to see one- such as the OP's- that hasn't been molested in such a fashion.
    It has character and is all of the grade.

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  • ConshyboyConshyboy Posts: 453 ✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Conshyboy said:
    Something tells me 63

    Yeah, the title and the picture of the slab. >:)

    I'm an idiot

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Conshyboy said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Conshyboy said:
    Something tells me 63

    Yeah, the title and the picture of the slab. >:)

    I'm an idiot

    I was just kidding with you. It was a GTG originally.

  • cameonut2011cameonut2011 Posts: 10,167 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I’m in the AU camp

  • TrampTramp Posts: 691 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Generously graded IMO. Maybe a 61 at most.

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