Cause of high rims and loss of dentils

endzeit

This specimen exhibits practically zero dentils and hints of a brockage type strike on obverse. Appears to be an EDS of the so called hot lips var or reverse device transfer to obverse. Possibly involved in a type of brockage strike involving 2 or more pieces and possibly multistruck.
I have studied this piece for quite some time and have not landed a solid attribute.
Some professional opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance!
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PapiNE

That year and mint suffered from die erosion and, along with wear, probably account for the condition of the denticles. Hot Lips is generally associated with the New Orleans strike but the forum would need close-ups to make a determination.

FredWeinberg

That’s a normal coin from dies that struck a lot of coins before it.
There’s no brockage, multi-strike, or other error on it.

endzeit

Thanks for the incredibly fast examination of 4 photos.
The crumbled die explanation does not explain the full spectrum of anomalies on this piece.
The "it's nothing, just normal" explanation causes people to just quit.
With no sense of discovery there is no point, and new discoveries are being made every day. An open mind is all it takes and with the accepted explanations, which I do not adhere to, there is no excitement or sense of discovery so what is the point? Profit? Period?
I for one do not accept current explanations, mintage etc. New discoveries cause professional numismatists to scratch their heads all of the time. Forgotten/lost information is rediscovered frequently. All of this must be taken into account when placing an attribute on anything.
The provenance of this collection is documented, consisting of approximately 30,000 pieces, all denominations, years, mints, in die progression order.
Thanks for the opinions, I do appreciate it however I did expect this exact answer.
Some other time. Maybe.
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Rexford

Like it or not, there is nothing abnormal about that coin. Sorry that you can only accept opinions that coincide with your own, even though the opinion given to you earlier in this thread was given by one of the foremost error experts in numismatics.

privatecoin

@endzeit said:
Thanks for the incredibly fast examination of 4 photos.
The crumbled die explanation does not explain the full spectrum of anomalies on this piece.
The "it's nothing, just normal" explanation causes people to just quit.
With no sense of discovery there is no point, and new discoveries are being made every day. An open mind is all it takes and with the accepted explanations, which I do not adhere to, there is no excitement or sense of discovery so what is the point? Profit? Period?
I for one do not accept current explanations, mintage etc. New discoveries cause professional numismatists to scratch their heads all of the time. Forgotten/lost information is rediscovered frequently. All of this must be taken into account when placing an attribute on anything.
The provenance of this collection is documented, consisting of approximately 30,000 pieces, all denominations, years, mints, in die progression order.
Thanks for the opinions, I do appreciate it however I did expect this exact answer.
Some other time. Maybe.
W. E. C. 3 NCS services

Send it in then........

ifthevamzarockin

@endzeit said:
Thanks for the incredibly fast examination of 4 photos.
The crumbled die explanation does not explain the full spectrum of anomalies on this piece.
The "it's nothing, just normal" explanation causes people to just quit.
With no sense of discovery there is no point, and new discoveries are being made every day. An open mind is all it takes and with the accepted explanations, which I do not adhere to, there is no excitement or sense of discovery so what is the point? Profit? Period?
I for one do not accept current explanations, mintage etc. New discoveries cause professional numismatists to scratch their heads all of the time. Forgotten/lost information is rediscovered frequently. All of this must be taken into account when placing an attribute on anything.
The provenance of this collection is documented, consisting of approximately 30,000 pieces, all denominations, years, mints, in die progression order.
Thanks for the opinions, I do appreciate it however I did expect this exact answer.
Some other time. Maybe.
W. E. C. 3 NCS services

You have been given correct answers.
Sorry you refuse to accept them.

AUandAG

PCGS needs to grade that baby!

bob
vegas, baby!

endzeit

Thanks ifthevamzarockin and AUandAG.
It is not that I refuse to accept the curent accepted theories*, and believe me they are all theories, I choose to incorporate those theories* into my own theories. I prefer to keep an open mind and actually use my mind to attribute pieces as these theories* are changing constantly.
Staying stuck in a comfort zone is not my way. Using the history of the changes that are constantly happening keeps me writing and theorizing.
Some have been proven, some not but nothing is set in stone 8n this field, if it was would that not be very boring?
I'll post several more, several denominations etc, let's see the outcome! Thanks again.

burdell

You may wish to consider the following:

endzeit

Thank you burdell, sharing this encourages me to keep on studying, theorizing and writing.
I have studied the minting processes throughout the history of US coinage, and throughout history from ancient times to present.
There are SO many circumstances that can affect a strike as I am sure you know.
I write all of my theories down, in detail, of everything that I study which will be refined, edited and eventually become my first published book.
Thanks again!

endzeit

Thank you Rexford however I know his history, and it is impressive. It is also hindered by NOT considering anything that does not comply with the mainstream. In other words, stale, closed mind that won't allow entry of any new information.
Also I have seen and read several articles, I do not mean to be rude but these people think that NO ONE ELSE can be as informed as they are so therefore if they did not find it, or theorize it etc. it can't be anything. How sad.
I realize that I may be wrong, but I bet you this piece they are never wrong as their ego won't allow that.
Thanks again.