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Would this SLQ grade FH at PCGS?

ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

NGC calls it FH. Would PCGS? I've had bad luck getting PCGS FH attributions from NGC FH SLQ's!

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  • oih82w8oih82w8 Posts: 12,342 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 14, 2023 6:57PM

    "I" would not, but...

    "PCGS awards the Full Head grading designation to certain Standing Liberty Quarters grading AU50 or better, with an exception as noted below. The FH designation applies to qualifying Standing Liberty Quarters, with different criteria applying to the Type I (1916-1917) issues versus those used when grading Type II (1917-1930) specimens.

    Type I Standing Liberty Quarters earn the FH designation when there is a clear and distinct separation between Miss Liberty’s hair cords and her cap.
    Type II Standing Liberty Quarters receive the Full Head designation when the helmet exhibits three complete and distinct leaves, a complete outline on the bottom of the helmet, and a clear ear hole on Miss Liberty’s head.
    There is one notable exception when it comes to applying the Full Head designation on the rare 1918/7-S overdate. On these varieties, PCGS will appoint the FH designation to coins meeting the Type II Full Head standards for coins grading XF40 or better."

    https://www.pcgs.com/news/what-does-full-head-mean-on-standing-liberty-quarters#:~:text=PCGS awards the Full Head grading designation to,those used when grading Type II (1917-1930) specimens.

    1916 Style Head

    1917 Type I Style Head

    1917-30 Type II Style Head

    https://www.pcgs.com/news/Tips-From-The-Grading-Room Part 1?gid=20

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  • ManorcourtmanManorcourtman Posts: 8,069 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @oih82w8 said:
    "I" would not, but...

    "PCGS awards the Full Head grading designation to certain Standing Liberty Quarters grading AU50 or better, with an exception as noted below. The FH designation applies to qualifying Standing Liberty Quarters, with different criteria applying to the Type I (1916-1917) issues versus those used when grading Type II (1917-1930) specimens.

    Type I Standing Liberty Quarters earn the FH designation when there is a clear and distinct separation between Miss Liberty’s hair cords and her cap.
    Type II Standing Liberty Quarters receive the Full Head designation when the helmet exhibits three complete and distinct leaves, a complete outline on the bottom of the helmet, and a clear ear hole on Miss Liberty’s head.
    There is one notable exception when it comes to applying the Full Head designation on the rare 1918/7-S overdate. On these varieties, PCGS will appoint the FH designation to coins meeting the Type II Full Head standards for coins grading XF40 or better."

    https://www.pcgs.com/news/what-does-full-head-mean-on-standing-liberty-quarters#:~:text=PCGS awards the Full Head grading designation to,those used when grading Type II (1917-1930) specimens.

    1916 Style Head

    1917 Type I Style Head

    1917-30 Type II Style Head

    https://www.pcgs.com/news/Tips-From-The-Grading-Room Part 1?gid=20

    That's awesome info! Thanks! I did not know it was published by the hosts.

  • AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Compare yours to this.

  • Elcontador1Elcontador1 Posts: 100 ✭✭✭

    @AlanSki said:
    Compare yours to this.

    Alan, your 30 P FH coin has the best struck obverse of that date and mintmark I've seen. Normally they have mushy strikes.

  • 124Spider124Spider Posts: 965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    JMO, but, to me, whether or not that coin received FH designation would not have much bearing on how much I would be willing to pay for it. Without a FH designation, I would like how full the head is, and give it a bump for that; with a FH designation, I would not be impressed by the designation, and would not pay as much for it as I would for one with a better struck/less worn head.

  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,432 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Regardless of whether or not that coin was rated as FH by a major TPG I would reject it as such. It doesn't meet my standards for FH.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • dhikewhitneydhikewhitney Posts: 475 ✭✭✭✭

    Not full head

  • WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 938 ✭✭✭✭

    @Elcontador1 said:

    @AlanSki said:
    Compare yours to this.

    Alan, your 30 P FH coin has the best struck obverse of that date and mintmark I've seen. Normally they have mushy strikes.

    What do you think of this coin I recently I bought as strike goes?


  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No.

  • AlanSkiAlanSki Posts: 1,926 ✭✭✭✭✭


  • WalkerfanWalkerfan Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don’t think they should

    Sometimes, it’s better to be LUCKY than good. 🍀 🍺👍

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  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 8,388 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Send it in to our hosts and find out.

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Manorcourtman said:
    NGC calls it FH. Would PCGS? I've had bad luck getting PCGS FH attributions from NGC FH SLQ's!

    It just might make it. My problem with it though, is the lack of a well-defined separation between the head and hair line.

    That might break it.

    Pete

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  • Farmer1961Farmer1961 Posts: 167 ✭✭✭

    That is not a full head strike.

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