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It looks like there's Trouble in (3)River City.

MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

Reports are trickling out that TJ Watt suffered a concussion on the first play of last Thursday's game between the Patriots and Steelers when Ezekiel Elliott's knee slammed into his helmet on the first play of the game. He came out, went into the tent and exhibited some symptoms, mainly light sensitivity. He changed is helmet visor from clear to dark tinted and returned to the game. Friday morning he complained at the Steelers facility, was diagnosed with a concussion and entered the NFL mandated protocol.

At his Monday morning press conference Head Coach Mike Tomlin feigned ignorance of anything that had happened up to that point when questioned about it. TJ Watt remains questionable for Saturday's game against the Colts. The NFL office is investigating.

Not a good look for Pittsburgh or the NFL.

Maywood.

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  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Terrible look for the Steelers. there should be some sort of real penalty invoked if the allegations are true. I am sure this happens much more frequently than we know, but it doesnt make it right.

    you can have surgery and heal from most injuries (other than spinal) but brain injuries are different. NFL players are so results-driven that the league and teams need to save them from themselves in those situations. it is settled science what happens to guys after repeated concussions/head injuries.

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I just watched a short video on this. It showed a close-up of the play followed by TJ Watt being attended on the field, looking unsteady as he stands and shaking his head. Additional footage shows Watt on the sideline with a blank gaze on his face, squeezing his eyes open and shut, squinting and using smelling salts. Then he's back on the field with a dark visor.

    Shades of Tua last season.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,225 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited December 13, 2023 6:42AM

    Watt himself should have known better to go back in, Tomlin might not have been aware of all of it.

    I will say shame on Watt for going back in just as I said the same thing about Tua last season

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog said:
    Watt himself should have known better to go back in, Tomlin might not have been aware of all of it.

    I will say shame on Watt for going back in just as I said the same thing about Tua last season

    they are really putting their future health in jeopardy. the long term effects of brain injury are not good.

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @perkdog, that's the logical interpretation and the one that makes sense. Seeing Watt after the incident and on the sidelines coupled with his game performance(3 tackles/2 assists) should have been enough for him to say "I'm not right" but I don't think these guys are capable of doing that, either by personality or peer pressure.

    It sounds far fetched, but look at the heat Deshaun Watson got when he sat out his first game. Talk ranged from he's "soft" all the way to he doesn't want to play in Cleveland anymore. The end result of that was predictable, season ending surgery.

  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maywood said:
    @perkdog, that's the logical interpretation and the one that makes sense. Seeing Watt after the incident and on the sidelines coupled with his game performance(3 tackles/2 assists) should have been enough for him to say "I'm not right" but I don't think these guys are capable of doing that, either by personality or peer pressure.

    It sounds far fetched, but look at the heat Deshaun Watson got when he sat out his first game. Talk ranged from he's "soft" all the way to he doesn't want to play in Cleveland anymore. The end result of that was predictable, season ending surgery.

    Fair points about Watson

    As far as these guy being "Incapable" of taking themselves out of the game? Possibly but don't cry about CTE after you retire then, it's on you for not doing the right thing for yourself or your teammates

  • 2dueces2dueces Posts: 6,230 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Ronnie Lott had the option of sitting out a few games with a broken finger or having the tip cut off. Guess what option he chose

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  • perkdogperkdog Posts: 29,225 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @2dueces said:
    Ronnie Lott had the option of sitting out a few games with a broken finger or having the tip cut off. Guess what option he chose

    That is tough as nails, without question but that's a logical decision made with a sound mind, a guy who is seeing stars isn't doing anyone any favors by toughening up and going back in to get run over and potentially making yourself unavailable for the next game, maybe more

  • SanctionIISanctionII Posts: 11,607 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The human mind is a strange thing.

    Why a person would willing choose to participate in an activity that poses a high degree of risk for immediate and future physical harm, mental harm and even death (when circumstances do not require it; and when a person has alternatives available to him or her that can provide for a good life) is beyond me. Even after suffering a traumatic event and instead of sitting on the sidelines, going back into the game knowing that he or she is hurt and at risk for getting hurt worse.

    For example, football, boxing, MMA, free climbing, bungee jumping, wingsuit jumping/flying, free diving, swimming with great white sharks.

    Some people have a need for living dangerously. Others do not.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Guys were just tougher back in the day............

  • TabeTabe Posts: 5,907 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If he went into the tent, doesn't that mean he was evaluated by the unaffiliated doctor? So it would be up to that person to block his return?

    That doesn't absolve Pittsburgh, of course. They should see for themselves he wasn't right and keep him out.

  • MaywoodMaywood Posts: 1,841 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'm not sure they took him into that blue tent,.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,268 ✭✭✭✭✭

    if he was not evaluated and the team was using smelling salts on him, repercussions should happen.

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • Alfonz24Alfonz24 Posts: 3,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @SanctionII said:
    The human mind is a strange thing.

    Why a person would willing choose to participate in an activity that poses a high degree of risk for immediate and future physical harm, mental harm and even death (when circumstances do not require it; and when a person has alternatives available to him or her that can provide for a good life) is beyond me. Even after suffering a traumatic event and instead of sitting on the sidelines, going back into the game knowing that he or she is hurt and at risk for getting hurt worse.

    **For example, football, boxing, MMA, free climbing, bungee jumping, wingsuit jumping/flying, free diving, swimming with great white sharks. **

    Some people have a need for living dangerously. Others do not.

    You forgot to add Sports Talk forum.

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  • galaxy27galaxy27 Posts: 7,065 ✭✭✭✭✭

    and on top of all that, Big Ben came out and took a big ol' swipe at Mike Tomlin, saying that the tradition of the Steelers is done and literally used the words "bad coaching"

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