Inherited 1909-s VDB & 1914-D Lincolns
PipestonePete
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A friend called me today saying he had inherited some coins and asked if I would take a look at them. The bulk of the inheritance was blue Whitman folders with Lincolns, Jeffersons, and Indian Head nickels. There was also a Dansco Lincoln set that is probably 95% complete. The set included this 1909-S VDB and this 1914-D. I would appreciate any comments regarding the authenticity and condition of these two.
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Looks good to me.
I'm looking forward to others weighing in.
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Is the center bar of the B slanted up?
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The 09-S VDB looks like MM #4. Are the serifs on "S" parallel?:
https://www.pcgs.com/news/counterfeit-vs-authentic-1909-s-vdb-lincoln-cents
Nothing screams fake about the 14-D either. Grade-wise... from the pictures... they both look AU, with nice color and decent surfaces. The only thing that concerns me is the schmutz in "In God We Trust" on the 14-D...
If you do decide to get these certified (highly recommended IMHO) please let us know how it turns out...
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I'll take a conservative stab and say MS-64 for the 1909 and MS-62 for the 1914. Stunning quality on both coins.
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Yes yes yes as others have said here GET THEM CERTIFIED. And very nice coins!
Good work on the pictures - and the coins look terrific!
My first thoughts are that the 1909s vdb is a nice original mint state coin,
And the 1914-d seems from the pictures to be an original AU coin, if not uncirculated. And the tiny amount of detritus it may have acquired over 100+ years looks quite natural and not a worry.
Quality stuff, thanks for sharing!
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They both look correct to me. Nothing jumps out as fake. Congratulations to your friend. And quite nice looking coins too!
not sure about the 1909 S vdb
I can't see the dot between he d and b.
looks like the dot is closer to the d not centered.
Agree. Need a better picture of the reverse.
I'm in! 👍
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Jackpot for your friend IMO
Nice meaty coins.... nice little inheritance.
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second photo looks better and I am OK with the period!
Please show some more of the early lincolns. Are they consistent in appearance with the 1909 and 1914?
Those are some sweet wheats!
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What’s the 22 no D look like?
If the rest of the early dates look like these, you may want to have more graded. Very nice coins, and a rarity to see in an inherited collection.
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Great score for your friend, both look legit to me.
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That looks good
Nice inheritance.
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The SVDB looks off to me.
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Can you be more specific? What exactly seems off?
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i'm not an expert on these, but the 09-s looks pretty nice. very sharp strike! the 14-d has some verdigris i think. but either way i would be submitting both of those for grading. they look good.
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Nice to do for a friend
Martin
They look like both would grade real nice, congrats
When you submit them for slabbing, add a note to the submission form "PLEASE! NO FINGERPRINTS! Thank you."
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There is no 22 no D and the rest of the early Lincolns are in a variety of conditions. Mid '30s on up are AU and BU. It's an interesting set as it seems there wasn't any particular plan for acquiring a matched set.
Tell your friend to have them certified and be patient.
The 14-D is really nice.
There aren't a lot out there with a nice strike like that. Most are a little mushy.
Pete
I see the notch in the upper serif of the 's.' I do think it's real. Don't like the soft strike though so that puts me off from being a fan of it.
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Is this common? I've seen a few coins in slabs with really annoying finger prints. But have not seen any recently.
There was a recent lengthy thread where someone got a coin back from PCGS and there was a fingerprint on it that wasn't on the coin when it was submitted for grading. Others chimed in that they had similar bad experiences with their coins being fingerprinted. My comment was mostly made in humor
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Both coins are winners, svdb with a little acetone cleanup should 4+ min, the 14-d 58+
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Beautiful coins; would be expressing the heck out of them to PCGS. Or if looking to sell, have GC get them graded at a discount at PCGS then cac them and sell them.
The S-VDB looks MS. I'm guessing the 14-D is AU-55
Wow! What a great inheritance for your friend! Very nice...
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I don't know enough about what I'm looking at so I'll say, both these coins should be bought graded.
So there you go, send them in for the best return on investment.
Great coins like these, that are seeing the light of day for the first time, make me wonder just how many raw rarities and gem pieces are out there waiting to be discovered.
I've had first hand experience with a spectacular coin that came to light when I was helping a work acquaintance sort through her deceased husband's collection. Mostly it was an accumulation of random junk silver, rolls of state quarters, worn-out silver certificates, base metal world coins and other forgettable pieces.
As we were finishing up she remembered that she had one more coin put away for safekeeping, which turned out to be a superb gem Carson City Morgan dollar. I was floored by what appeared to be a potential MS67 with original skin, though I can't remember the date. I gave her a crash course on how to handle it, no cleaning, no dipping, etc. I recommended immediate certification but she wanted to keep the coin as is, in memory of her husband. I lost touch with her when I left my job and I wonder where that coin is now, after all these years.