Who's responsible for where an NFL player lines up pre-snap??
Maywood
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Chiefs receiver Kadarius Toney lined up offside, who's fault was it??
Who's responsible for where an NFL player lines up pre-snap??
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The debate rages post-game about Toney lining up off sides near the end of the game on a pivotal play. The Chiefs seem to want to blame the officials and Mahomes was so irate he doesn't think the officials should really be calling any penalties at the end of important games, let the players decide.
Comical. The Chiefs are finding out what it's like to be treated as a normal team and things aren't going their way lately. That is a separate issue, what strikes me is the way that the current "NFL Poster Boy" reacted on the sideline with the cameras whirling!!
Maywood.
@Maywood 100%. it is the coaching staffs responsibility to prepare the players during the week. On game day, it is 100% the player's responsibility to do the easiest thing possible in tackle football, to line up ON side. I wonder why they dont "warn" teams when they have 12 men on the field?
To throw a baby fit and blame the Refs on the sideline is juvenile and TERRIBLE optics.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
For god's sake, if a player gets to the NFL and can't figure out where the line of scrimmage is, we don't need to look for someone else to blame.
@JoeBanzai couldnt agree more. it is the easiest thing to do in all of football.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I go crazy when a lineman lines up offside.
THE BALL'S RIGHT THERE MORON!
😁
Defensive lineman jumping offsides and Offensive lineman flinching makes us crazy but it's sort of understandable. Those guys pre-snap are like a piece of piano wire stretched tight!! But lining up in the "neutral zone" is a pretty big mental mistake. The twist in this one is that the guy who commits the foul is the same player who scores the TD.
The Chiefs deserve what they get with K Toney
With him being so close to the lineman, someone on his team and / or sidelines should have yelled at him.
It is crazy. in the image, you can clearly see that Toney himself is looking at the center/ball yet he does not realize where he is standing. He actually has to look back at the center
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
@Alfonz24 said: With him being so close to the lineman, someone on his team and / or sidelines should have yelled at him.
That's a great shot of the play but I disagree with your point about the team. Toney is looking right down the scrimmage line and aside from the center nobody is within a yard of the ball. His line of sight should have told him to step back, his entire head and leg up to the knee is in the neutral zone. I guess it would have been nice if someone told him to back up but he should never have been there to begin with.
I think I'm gonna apply with KC for a job: I'll be the guy on the sideline staring down the line of scrimmage with a bullhorn warning players to move back!!
Its the players fault. WRs and Dlinemen try and cheat the neutral zone, sometime they get caught sometimes they get away with it.
Any player that cant see theyre in front of the ball looking across the line doesnt belong playing D1 college much less the NFL. They push it a little more all game until they finally get called for it
Wisconsin 2-6 against the SEC since 2007
poor patty was almost in tears
You're right it is comical. I don't think it's in the NFL book that the rules change towards the end of a game. 😂
Although on second thought, it could be that Taylor Swift is responsible. 🤔
I apologize, I tried to stop my fingers from typing this, but was unsuccessful. 😐
All the attention this is getting you would think that was the Super Bowl. Feels like the NFL and the Chiefs are becoming a circus.
9.91/hour
time and a half if you play catch with kadarius toney
and one of these
not a terrible gig if you can get it
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
https://www.outkick.com/chiefs-say-nfl-embarrassing-over-an-officiating-call-that-was-ultimately-correct/
MAHOMES, REID LIKELY TO BE FINED AFTER CHIEFS BLAME NFL OFFICIALS FOR ‘EMBARRASSING’ CALL THAT WAS ULTIMATELY CORRECT
The best part is the further unraveling of the Chiefs next week when they get scalped by the Patriots
Yes I'm calling it now, Pats beat the Chiefs next week
if I stepped on line and I was wrong; Mr. Chipetta would have me running laps til the cows come home...Yep I really miss grammar school football.....
now while I got you guys here...um @stevek Yes we both had bad Sundays....although @LandrysFedora was quite pleased...
hey @perkdog I'm kind of thinking the same thing next Sunday....something is just not right with that red team....
Patriots +9.5 at home.
@stevek said: Patriots +9.5 at home.
I never bet, haven't in probably 40-50 years, but I remember when I did that a 10 point spot in the pro's was a sucker bet. Take New England and the points.
Yes, bad Sunday. However 10-3 and a lock for the playoffs, so I'm not going to complain too much.
Too early to sit here and try to analyze tie-breakers. But the Eagles still in an excellent position for home field advantage.
you guys, you are stressing me out here.
Patty needs to come through for me and beat my Patriots.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I identified the culprit.
This guy drew the line of scrimmage for the Chefs.
Pasted: DraftKings has a market cap or net worth of $16.74 billion.
Seems to me that a better bet would be to buy their stock. 😉
That being said, I do enjoy analyzing the games, point spreads, etc, and think who might be the winner. Sort of like a guilty pleasure. 😎
Andy Reid on Drafting the Kelce Brothers, Coaching Mahomes, Super Bowl Memories & More | EP 38
Some may have seen this video posted around 7 months ago. It is entertaining.
However I recall thinking at the time when I viewed it, that it sure seemed odd an old school coach such as Andy Reid, getting so giddy with the players. Fondly touching each other, etc. You often see this type of interaction with retired coaches and players on various media programs, but not really when their careers are in full swing.
Is this particular "attitude" the reason for the Chiefs floundering this season? I'm not saying it is, but I'm not saying it isn't either. For sure though, in the high pressure environment of the NFL to win, any lack of focus can and does result in losing games, and certainly a decline in performance.
Perhaps Reid doesn't care too much at this point. He's got two Super Bowl rings, and he's a stone cold lock Hall of Famer. We shall see how the rest of the season goes.
Maybe with stuff like that and his commercials the players see him as a regular guy and one of them??
Not sure if that works well with a coach such as Andy Reid. It sure hasn't this season thus far. But of course that may not be the entire reason, perhaps no reason at all.
Did you watch the video as to how many times they all playfully touched each other? Frankly it was a bit nauseating. Although the dialog was sort of entertaining.
I've stated before that I've always liked Andy Reid, so I wish him no ill wiil.
"Reid changed his tone on Monday, admitting Toney was at fault for the infraction by not checking with the officials to see if his alignment was proper."
The OFFICIALS???
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/patrick-mahomes-regrets-angry-reaction-to-officials-not-a-great-example-for-kids-023613278.html
Patrick Mahomes regrets angry reaction to officials: 'Not a great example for kids'
Frankly, I think the anger goes a lot deeper than this. The Chiefs are 8-5 this season. Not at all a terrible record for most teams. But not for a team that was supposed to be a dynasty.
Reid really needs to kick some keisters over there, or the Chiefs may be looking at one and done in the playoffs.
@stevek as a longtime eagles fan who watched Reids career there, was he ever the "keister kicker?" Or did he have his assistants do it?
I have heard a few people on different forums mention that it was Eric B. who did most of the "chew outs" on the Chiefs and now that he is gone, things have gotten a little loosey-goosey.
just trying to figure out why things have gone so sideways with the offense this season. He didnt really have great WR last season, unless you want to call Ju Ju great (which I dont) but Pattys stats were MUCH better.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I'll tell ya one quick story. I can't recall the player's name, but it was an offensive lineman, and it was during training camp. I'm sure you know what a blocking sled is. Well something happened during practice and it really hissed Reid off a lot towards the lineman. Well after practice and the players are walking off the field. Reid shouted to that player to stay. I'm not sure how long it was, but if you've ever used a blocking sled, I have numerous times, you'll know that it's exhausting if you're made to hit it a bunch of times consecutively. We used to run this thing in summer practice, we called it "tobacco road." Whereby you hit a sled, run around 25 yards, hit another one, run around 25 yards and then hit another one, and sprint back to the starting point - very exhausting. Well Reid made this player hit the sled I'm not sure how many consecutive times but it was a lot. Figuratively Reid almost killed the player and that was the intent. BTW - the player made the team, and I can imagine if the player didn't perform well during that sled exercise, Reid would have immediately cut him.
If that's not kicking a keister, I'm not sure what is. 😆