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OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭✭✭
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I've had this dime for 8 or 9 years. I recently decided to check the ANACS pop report and found this. I sent them an e-mail this morning and I'm waiting to hear back. More to follow....

Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

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  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    We've got to keep the TPGs in line. :D

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  • CRHer700CRHer700 Posts: 2,038 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wonder whether they thought that yours is the MS 61 that is listed, or whether they simply skipped it.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CRHer700 said:
    I wonder whether they thought that yours is the MS 61 that is listed, or whether they simply skipped it.

    I don't know but we'll find out. I'll let you know.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,539 ✭✭✭✭✭

    sounds like a simple error, it happens

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It was JUST fixed. Outstanding ANACS customer service!! 👍

    Sent: Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 01:15:06 PM EST
    Subject: RE: ANACS 1963 Roosevelt Dime MS-63 Ragged Clip

    Hi Tom,

    Thank you for your patience while we looked into this. Our IT department was able to get this resolved and it is now populating on the website correctly. Report can be viewed here:

    https://portal.anacs.com/Verify/CertVerification.aspx?cert=5067326

    Please let us know if you need anything additional.

    Thank you,

    Jordan, Customer Service
    ANACS Coin Grading
    www.ANACS.com

    PO Box 6000
    Englewood, CO 80155
    1-800-888-1861

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    It was JUST fixed. Outstanding ANACS customer service!! 👍

    I will agree with you here. Their customer service is outstanding.

    http://www.SmallDollars.com
  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:
    Is owning a POP ZERO coin rarer than owning a POP ONE?

    So this 1/0 represents not just the highest coin graded but the only coin graded for that date?... Is that correct?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It says there are two, one in ms61 & one in ms63 Your example).
    But the real question is, do you really feel better now, imagine all the other errors that currently exist and go uncorrected. And your the only guy that took the time to correct their mistake and I don't believe anybody else would take the time to do so other than yourself.

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:
    It says there are two, one in ms61 & one in ms63 Your example).
    But the real question is, do you really feel better now, imagine all the other errors that currently exist and go uncorrected. And your the only guy that took the time to correct their mistake and I don't believe anybody else would take the time to do so other than yourself.

    Yes, I enjoy taking the time, digging into the weeds, trying to figure out what I don't understand and getting other opinions. Do you have a problem with that?

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 34,946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @braddick said:
    Is owning a POP ZERO coin rarer than owning a POP ONE?

    So this 1/0 represents not just the highest coin graded but the only coin graded for that date?... Is that correct?

    I wouldn't put any stock in error coin pops from ANACS. First of all, ANACS has had database issues. There might be 50 of them that were lost. And then you have the issue of the label. Were all such errors designated the same way?

  • logger7logger7 Posts: 8,609 ✭✭✭✭✭

    They may have purged their database due to the new company taking over, and their not honoring the grades of the prior small white slab coins.

  • RobertScotLoverRobertScotLover Posts: 973 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @RobertScotLover said:
    It says there are two, one in ms61 & one in ms63 Your example).
    But the real question is, do you really feel better now, imagine all the other errors that currently exist and go uncorrected. And your the only guy that took the time to correct their mistake and I don't believe anybody else would take the time to do so other than yourself.

    Yes, I enjoy taking the time, digging into the weeds, trying to figure out what I don't understand and getting other opinions. Do you have a problem with that?

    Why would I have a problem with that, we all do that. You stated that they corrected the pop report for your coin by only mentioned that there is one example graded when there was two. I dug into the weeds for a brief millisecond and saw that you were in error and alerted you.
    Also I don't know if you are aware of another fact buried in the weeds is today's ANACS is not the ANACS of before (small white holders, conservatively graded for the most part), ICG bought out ANACS so basically it is really ICG with a new old name probably to hitch a ride on ANACS' former credibility. And that's about it.

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,165 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @RobertScotLover said:
    It says there are two, one in ms61 & one in ms63 Your example).
    But the real question is, do you really feel better now, imagine all the other errors that currently exist and go uncorrected. And your the only guy that took the time to correct their mistake and I don't believe anybody else would take the time to do so other than yourself.

    Yes, I enjoy taking the time, digging into the weeds, trying to figure out what I don't understand and getting other opinions. Do you have a problem with that?

    Why would I have a problem with that, we all do that. You stated that they corrected the pop report for your coin by only mentioned that there is one example graded when there was two. I dug into the weeds for a brief millisecond and saw that you were in error and alerted you.
    Also I don't know if you are aware of another fact buried in the weeds is today's ANACS is not the ANACS of before (small white holders, conservatively graded for the most part), ICG bought out ANACS so basically it is really ICG with a new old name probably to hitch a ride on ANACS' former credibility. And that's about it.

    I was unaware the new ANACS is really now the 'old' ICG.
    I'd have thought with the expense of this transaction it would have been ANACS who would buyout ICG (and then burn it to the ground).

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @RobertScotLover said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @RobertScotLover said:
    It says there are two, one in ms61 & one in ms63 Your example).
    But the real question is, do you really feel better now, imagine all the other errors that currently exist and go uncorrected. And your the only guy that took the time to correct their mistake and I don't believe anybody else would take the time to do so other than yourself.

    Yes, I enjoy taking the time, digging into the weeds, trying to figure out what I don't understand and getting other opinions. Do you have a problem with that?

    Why would I have a problem with that, we all do that. You stated that they corrected the pop report for your coin by only mentioned that there is one example graded when there was two. I dug into the weeds for a brief millisecond and saw that you were in error and alerted you.
    Also I don't know if you are aware of another fact buried in the weeds is today's ANACS is not the ANACS of before (small white holders, conservatively graded for the most part), ICG bought out ANACS so basically it is really ICG with a new old name probably to hitch a ride on ANACS' former credibility. And that's about it.

    I just spoke with ANACS customer service. You should get your facts straight. ANACS being bought out by ICG is a bogus rumor.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf-

    I have no idea about the errors being designated the same way. I guess it is, what it is. Besides, I'm sure this pop report stuff is a low priority for the TPG'ers. It's impossible to maintain accurate numbers.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • braddickbraddick Posts: 24,165 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @RobertScotLover said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @RobertScotLover said:
    It says there are two, one in ms61 & one in ms63 Your example).
    But the real question is, do you really feel better now, imagine all the other errors that currently exist and go uncorrected. And your the only guy that took the time to correct their mistake and I don't believe anybody else would take the time to do so other than yourself.

    Yes, I enjoy taking the time, digging into the weeds, trying to figure out what I don't understand and getting other opinions. Do you have a problem with that?

    Why would I have a problem with that, we all do that. You stated that they corrected the pop report for your coin by only mentioned that there is one example graded when there was two. I dug into the weeds for a brief millisecond and saw that you were in error and alerted you.
    Also I don't know if you are aware of another fact buried in the weeds is today's ANACS is not the ANACS of before (small white holders, conservatively graded for the most part), ICG bought out ANACS so basically it is really ICG with a new old name probably to hitch a ride on ANACS' former credibility. And that's about it.

    I just spoke with ANACS customer service. You should get your facts straight. ANACS being bought out by ICG is a bogus rumor.

    Good to know.
    I shouldn't believe what I read here at face value.

    I don't do so in real life, yet I find myself being gullible at times here on this forum.

    :(

  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @RobertScotLover said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @RobertScotLover said:
    It says there are two, one in ms61 & one in ms63 Your example).
    But the real question is, do you really feel better now, imagine all the other errors that currently exist and go uncorrected. And your the only guy that took the time to correct their mistake and I don't believe anybody else would take the time to do so other than yourself.

    Yes, I enjoy taking the time, digging into the weeds, trying to figure out what I don't understand and getting other opinions. Do you have a problem with that?

    Why would I have a problem with that, we all do that. You stated that they corrected the pop report for your coin by only mentioned that there is one example graded when there was two. I dug into the weeds for a brief millisecond and saw that you were in error and alerted you.
    Also I don't know if you are aware of another fact buried in the weeds is today's ANACS is not the ANACS of before (small white holders, conservatively graded for the most part), ICG bought out ANACS so basically it is really ICG with a new old name probably to hitch a ride on ANACS' former credibility. And that's about it.

    I just spoke with ANACS customer service. You should get your facts straight. ANACS being bought out by ICG is a bogus rumor.

    Good to know.
    I shouldn't believe what I read here at face value.

    I don't do so in real life, yet I find myself being gullible at times here on this forum.

    :(

    I know, it's not always straight forward here. You could ask 5 guys the same question and get 5 different answers. Maybe it's just the nature of the hobby. Things can get convoluted but maybe that just me, because I'm not an expert.

    However, with that said; we all know the handful of go-to guys here who's replies are golden and you can take to the bank!

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • MWallaceMWallace Posts: 4,182 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @braddick said:

    @RobertScotLover said:

    @OAKSTAR said:

    @RobertScotLover said:
    It says there are two, one in ms61 & one in ms63 Your example).
    But the real question is, do you really feel better now, imagine all the other errors that currently exist and go uncorrected. And your the only guy that took the time to correct their mistake and I don't believe anybody else would take the time to do so other than yourself.

    Yes, I enjoy taking the time, digging into the weeds, trying to figure out what I don't understand and getting other opinions. Do you have a problem with that?

    Why would I have a problem with that, we all do that. You stated that they corrected the pop report for your coin by only mentioned that there is one example graded when there was two. I dug into the weeds for a brief millisecond and saw that you were in error and alerted you.
    Also I don't know if you are aware of another fact buried in the weeds is today's ANACS is not the ANACS of before (small white holders, conservatively graded for the most part), ICG bought out ANACS so basically it is really ICG with a new old name probably to hitch a ride on ANACS' former credibility. And that's about it.

    I was unaware the new ANACS is really now the 'old' ICG.
    I'd have thought with the expense of this transaction it would have been ANACS who would buyout ICG (and then burn it to the ground).

    My memory is that at one time, one of the heads of ICG moved to ANACS and vice versa. No sell/purchase of the companies, just switching of the CEO, top grader, management, or??? I don't remember the title of the people who were switched. This was sometime in the mid to late 2000s. I'm sorry I can't be more specific but it's true to the best of my memory. (OK @OAKSTAR . Don't say it. :D:D:D )

    http://www.SmallDollars.com
  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,711 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MWallace - Hold on, let me make a call. @CaptHenway will know. 😉

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,328 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    @MWallace - Hold on, let me make a call. @CaptHenway will know. 😉

    That was a long time ago but still long after I left ANACS. I can't remember who what to whom, and in what position.
    <3

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,926 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OAKSTAR said:
    I know, it's not always straight forward here. Maybe it's just the nature of the hobby.

    I don't think so @OAKSTAR - I think it's more just the way it is now a days hence the quote:

    "People don't want to hear anyone's opinion… they want to hear their opinions coming from someone else's mouth."

    "When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"

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