Is it wrong to call out unethical behavior?
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The 1813 thread was actually kind of interesting. Perhaps it was the language used that led to the thread disappearing. The facts of the case seemed to speak for themselves.
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I don’t think it’s wrong. But depending upon how it’s done, it can be against forum rules.
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No.
Did the thread disappear from your view? I can still see it...
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It's extraordinarily important to do...but very difficult in this environment where we typically only hear from the aggrieved party.
I stand corrected. I looked and searched for it several times and couldn’t find it. Now I see it.
no, I don't think so.
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We all should stand up for doing the right thing, no matter the consequences
An example where it would be unethical to call out unethical behavior in others would be if it’s done in order to get people to believe you are ethical if you aren’t. Like if you are a criminal you report other people doing the same crime to both get rid of the competition and to trick people into trusting you more.
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For me, yes. I was taught to do what's right. And pointing out others' shortcomings or misdeeds usually means I'm not paying attention to doing what's right. Too simplistic for many but it is how I was raised.
( ain't no skin off my nose)
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If you saw someone with a military style assault rifle sneaking into the back door of an elementary school, wouldn't you call the police? If you saw a drive-by shooting and saw the license plate number of the car, would you report it to the police? If a new forum member was selling coins on the BST but not sending them to the buyers after being paid for them, wouldn't you warn the other forum members?
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It depends on what it is and whether it is corroborated. People making unsubstantiated allegations or poorly substantiated allegations is itself unethical.
A truthful and dispassionate recounting of events is always a welcome warning and many of us use Yelp and other sites to try to inform and warn others.
Name-calling, impugning someone's motives, and character slurs are always inappropriate.
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I'd probably shoot first, then call police. I'd probably be working and wouldnt see it. I'd probably be in my shop buying, selling, and trading. What you do with your time and eyes is your business and no skin off my nose. Do you need a class on philosophy, morality, or ethics ? Why you questioning my position ?
I would want to know if someone was behaving unethically.
Because of the answer?
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What's your answer? The question was directed at you and Perry the same as it was to me.
Or are you guys lonely and need a side bar ?
Calling out unethical behavior is one of those good deeds that comes with massive punishment.
The substantial truth doctrine is an important defense in defamation law that allows individuals to avoid liability if the gist of their statement was true.
It is a rhetorical question, the answer to that one is always “no”. It is obvious.
That’s personal.
"No" is the logical answer. However it is much more nuanced.
If unethical behavior is in my space, I will deal with it swiftly and completely. If said behavior is outside my space, I will have to make a judgement call to decide if it rises to the level of me coming out of my lane to address it.
I have a friend who decided to break-up a domestic dispute in a parking lot. He wanted to "save the maiden in distress." She attacked him, the man followed suit and he ended up in the ER.
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Damn nuances!
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No, but often people who benefit from unethical behavior will tell you it is.
It can be manipulative, shaming, unbalanced and damaging if not done correctly, when we're pointing the finger at others sometimes there are four pointing back. We should aspire to clean up society from clear corruption. I was on a zoom call with a professional talking about background checks and the legal parameters of what employers can use and where they can cross the line last night, it's a potential minefield for employers with lawsuits possible. Personally I've done enough anti-fraud work to last a lifetime without getting any real benefit.