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What's Up With These 'New' Johnson Matthey Gold Bars??

LuxorLuxor Posts: 398 ✭✭✭✭✭

I recently saw offered by a bullion dealer these JM 1 oz gold bars in assay cards and they looked nothing like the vintage JM bars we all know so I called and inquired about them, and was told these are in fact newly produced bars and the producer paid a license fee to use the Johnson Matthey name and logo. Really?? What's up here....is that true??

New JM bars:

The vintage JM gold bars:

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  • ashelandasheland Posts: 22,567 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would be a little reluctant also.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,329 ✭✭✭✭✭

    When in doubt dont

  • I know Asahi purchased the company about 8 years ago. I did hear someone say they are making silver bars again under the JM logo but idk how real that info is.

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  • GreenstangGreenstang Posts: 723 ✭✭✭✭

    I have never seen that holder before and why is the serial number
    on the holder instead of the bar?

  • roob47roob47 Posts: 142 ✭✭✭
    edited November 25, 2023 8:17PM

    i like em , but ill hold off for now. Which reminds me i need to go sigma that lunar bar i got from costco! B)

  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 7,892 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2023 4:27AM

    Note that the new version has lower-case letters "ohnson atthey" (and possibly no serial numbers).
    The older version is all upper-case.

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2023 9:09AM

    I remember reading that Sunshine mint were producing Johnson Matthey branded bars around 2013ish before the sell to Asahi. Those were Silver bars though…

    It's all about what the people want...

  • LukeMarshallLukeMarshall Posts: 1,883 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 26, 2023 9:09AM


    It's all about what the people want...

  • HigashiyamaHigashiyama Posts: 2,133 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I agree that one should exercise extreme caution when buying gold, and I’m not suggesting that you buy these. But they are available at SD Bullion. Doesn’t that suggest they are legit? (at least the ones being sold by SD Bullion)?

  • DontTellTheWifeDontTellTheWife Posts: 603 ✭✭✭
    edited December 1, 2023 7:04PM

    No thanks. I'll pass.

    Looking at that pick, it lacks crisp and sharp definition.

    And the lower case letters just dont encourage me either.

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