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Genuine 1922 No D Strong Reverse? Asking for a friend

Walkerguy21DWalkerguy21D Posts: 11,073 ✭✭✭✭✭

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This belongs to a new member and he reached out on this coin for help.

This SEEMS to have all the right attributes, but I’m no expert, and I’m sure fakes abound. Of course certification would ultimately be needed, but if any of the experts can spot that it’s likely a fake or alteration, it could save the cost and effort.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts and opinions!





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  • seanqseanq Posts: 8,566 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks good to me, but others’ opinions carry a bit more weight than mine. From the reverse I’d grade it VF.

    Sean Reynolds

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  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,176 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks good........

  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,704 ✭✭✭✭✭

    From what I see it looks kosher


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  • Batman23Batman23 Posts: 4,999 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It looks OK to me.

  • ernie11ernie11 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It has all the right diagnostics.

  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 27,333 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Im good with it to 👍

  • drwstr123drwstr123 Posts: 7,026 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'd give it a go.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Please email me the individual pictures.

    If you can, take a better picture of the reverse first. There seems to be a slight bend in the coin from the M of AMERICA up through the N of CENT to the E of ONE. Might just be the lighting.

    If you are doing that, take a shot of the obverse with the light coming from the left side of the coin.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks good to me also.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the owner of this coin sees this message, please contact me.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭✭✭

    "TRUST" looks very odd to me unless it is just worn die or strike distortion.

    "To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin

  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,725 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow!

  • semikeycollectorsemikeycollector Posts: 914 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I had a non strong reverse one. This looks more like a strong reverse. Not an expert.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WinLoseWin said:
    "TRUST" looks very odd to me unless it is just worn die or strike distortion.

    This appears to be the Late Die State of Die Pair #2. Not all DP#2 coins are alike. I would like to get permission to use these pictures, or better ones, in my book to illustrate the die state.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
  • WinLoseWinWinLoseWin Posts: 1,465 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Until looking at the TrueView photos on CoinFacts, I had not realized how much variation there can be in the look of LIBERTY and the motto.

    1922 plain TrueViews on CoinFacts:

    https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1922-no-d-1c-strong-reverse-bn/images/3285

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    The distended U and flat bottom S in TRUST instead of curved up tail looked unusual to me at first on the original posted coin, There is at least this one that gets close to the same look, though still maybe not quite as late state looking as the OP photos.

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    https://pcgs.com/cert/42192620
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    "To Be Esteemed Be Useful" - 1792 Birch Cent --- "I personally think we developed language because of our deep need to complain." - Lily Tomlin

  • Farmer1961Farmer1961 Posts: 166 ✭✭✭

    Looks legit to me.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,442 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @WinLoseWin said:
    Until looking at the TrueView photos on CoinFacts, I had not realized how much variation there can be in the look of LIBERTY and the motto.

    1922 plain TrueViews on CoinFacts:

    https://pcgs.com/coinfacts/coin/1922-no-d-1c-strong-reverse-bn/images/3285

    .
    .
    .
    The distended U and flat bottom S in TRUST instead of curved up tail looked unusual to me at first on the original posted coin, There is at least this one that gets close to the same look, though still maybe not quite as late state looking as the OP photos.

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    https://pcgs.com/cert/42192620
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    Yes, that is close. However, I would like to use the higher grade OP coin.

    I have lots of unpublished info on the various 1922 cents, if I can just get the publisher I like to commit.

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.

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