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Help with 2 Cap Bust halves Die varieties please!

2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭✭






What Overton numbers and are they worth attribution?
Second is the 1830 the Large letters variety?
The coins are actually nicer than they appear in the pics both will straight grade i believe.
Thank you in advance!

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  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2023 4:14PM

    I think your 27 is a 106, which is a common variety. I also think it shares a reverse with the O-144, an R5. The 144 has a tine coming from the front of the bust. I don’t see that in your pics.

    The 1830 is not the LL variety. The pickup point I use for the obverse of the 1830-114 is a die chip in the upper loop of the 3, which this does not have. This one is an O-108 as evidenced by the recut top loop of the 8 and the extension of gule 6 beneath the shield.

    BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.

  • VictaVicta Posts: 33 ✭✭

    The 1830 is not the Large letters variety. Most likely it's the O.113, with the same obverse die as the O.114, but a different reverse die. The Large letters variety (O.114) has a reverse die with the D and S much closer together (almost one word). The O.113 is not worth a premium over a generic 1830.

  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2023 4:48PM

    It’s not the 113. A2 & A3 have filled in tops, the coin here doesn’t have those. It’s the 108 as it has many fine crossbar lines extending far into right wing.

  • Herb_THerb_T Posts: 1,733 ✭✭✭✭✭

    You will come to hate the 1827 varieties….some are a real nightmare!

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you all!
    I will save my attribution dollars for something more worthy..
    Really appreciate the help

  • Pnies20Pnies20 Posts: 2,287 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2023 5:49PM

    @Victa said:
    The 1830 is not the Large letters variety. Most likely it's the O.113, with the same obverse die as the O.114, but a different reverse die. The Large letters variety (O.114) has a reverse die with the D and S much closer together (almost one word). The O.113 is not worth a premium over a generic 1830.

    This is an O-108.

    The LL Obverse has a die chip in the upper loop of the 3.

    BHNC #248 … 130 and counting.

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Any interest in a long play GTG?
    My estimate is
    1827 XF

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 820 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oops
    1830 AU 53

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