Anybody score a Blay Indian Cent? Photos Added!

ironmanl63

I splurged and got 3! Details later.

oih82w8

Way outta my leauge.

coinbuf

Congrats on your wins, as above too pricey for me.

willy

Did not buy a Indian but won a 1893 MS66+ CAC dime.

Inspired70

wow! well done Willy! Those are great coins!

Coinscratch

No, but I looked

ironmanl63

The first one I won was not his number 1 coin for the slot. It is the 1859 MS64+ that was sold by Stacks Bowers out of the Larry Miller Collection. I bid on the coin back then but someone (maybe Stewart) beat me out. I have a wonderfull 1859 MS64+ in a CACG holder not sure which I will like better. Here are both coins which one do you prefer.

coinbuf

From those photos the CAC is better by a mile.

winesteven

I placed my max hammer bid on two Indian lots, bidding like a moron, but was blown out so far I wasn't even the underbidder. That rarely happens. When I bid on a lot, I'm the high bidder the vast majority of the time, and when I'm outbid, I'm always the underbidder.

Two lots for me next week

Steve

ironmanl63

@winesteven said:
I placed my max hammer bid on two Indian lots, bidding like a moron, but was blown out so far I wasn't even the underbidder. That rarely happens. When I bid on a lot, I'm the high bidder the vast majority of the time, and when I'm outbid, I'm always the underbidder.

Two lots for me next week

Steve

Wow. I was bidding on the lower end lots. Got my first 66+ and 67 Indian Cents.

winesteven

@ironmanl63 said:

@winesteven said:
I placed my max hammer bid on two Indian lots, bidding like a moron, but was blown out so far I wasn't even the underbidder. That rarely happens. When I bid on a lot, I'm the high bidder the vast majority of the time, and when I'm outbid, I'm always the underbidder.

Two lots for me next week

Steve

Wow. I was bidding on the lower end lots. Got my first 66+ and 67 Indian Cents.

I guess it’s all relative, but to me those aren’t lower end lots. Congratulations!

Steve

ironmanl63

@winesteven said:

@ironmanl63 said:

@winesteven said:
I placed my max hammer bid on two Indian lots, bidding like a moron, but was blown out so far I wasn't even the underbidder. That rarely happens. When I bid on a lot, I'm the high bidder the vast majority of the time, and when I'm outbid, I'm always the underbidder.

Two lots for me next week

Steve

Wow. I was bidding on the lower end lots. Got my first 66+ and 67 Indian Cents.

I guess it’s all relative, but to me those aren’t lower end lots. Congratulations!

Steve

I meant in this particular auction. They were probably the least expensive coins in each grade. Indian cents are my favorite coins and I really wanted to own some out of this collection. It has been said that many of these coins are the finest for the date and collected by the best eye for the type. It was a stretch but I believe it was worth it.

ironmanl63

@coinbuf said:
From those photos the CAC is better by a mile.

As far as hits no doubt. I want to see the eye appeal in hand on the Blay coin. The CACG coin has only a few hairlines that you need to look really hard to find. I thought it would get a 65 grade.

DMWJR

I got a few

DisneyFan

@willy said:
Did not buy a Indian but won a 1893 MS66+ CAC dime.

Great coin and it goes well with your profile picture.

I see your bid came in four seconds after the underbidder and six seconds before the auction closed.

I've got to watch out for you. Did you say your name was Willy or is it actually Wilely?

alaura22

@DMWJR said:
I got a few

Don't be shy now.......
Lets see some pics

DMWJR

I bought these:
1858 SL MS66
1875 MS66
1887 MS67
1892 MS67
1896 MS67

renomedphys

Congrats, Doug!

I got two:
1858/7 MS65
1872 MS65
Was underbidder on the 1886ty2 but lost it to a prior with too little time to rebid. 🤦🏻‍♂️

ironmanl63

Any other thoughts on the 1859's posted.

Coin Finder

Beautiful coins all of them! I got a Blay Lincoln cent duplicate that was in my budget. I got outbid on all others.

coinbuf

@ironmanl63 said:

@coinbuf said:
From those photos the CAC is better by a mile.

As far as hits no doubt. I want to see the eye appeal in hand on the Blay coin. The CACG coin has only a few hairlines that you need to look really hard to find. I thought it would get a 65 grade.

I'm sure that your new coin will be a stunner, I really like the clean look of your CAC coin so that wins out over what looks to be a bit of a stronger strike on the Blay coin. I have no doubt that it will be a tough decision to decide between the two in hand.

marcmoish

@ironmanl63 said:
Any other thoughts on the 1859's posted.

CACG piece by a mile. That neck stab wound is detracting. jmho.

leothelyon

@ironmanl63 said:
Any other thoughts on the 1859's posted.

That top coin has one helluva bold (bullet) strike! Is that rare, seldom encountered for the date? All the other coins made after that one would have less of a strike/details. Those 2-3 nicks say, good luck locating another example with this much detail without the marks.

Leo

gumby1234

@ironmanl63 I like the color of the PCGS graded coin better, but the gash on the neck kills it for me.

ironmanl63

I have a sneaky feeling the marks on the Blay coin will be much less egregious in hand. I will report back when I receive the coin. Knowing myself, most likely, they will both stay with me for a good while.

renomedphys

My first round Blay winnings just showed up. Snapped a couple pics. A little sunlight throwing off my white balance, but you get the idea:



The ‘72 has got to be the reddest one there is.

Cheers!

DMWJR

hey, the 1858/7 is the king. It's as well struck on the tail and right wreath as any of them. I want FROR, lol

redraider

Wow! Great, and I mean GREAT coins!

The 1858/7 looks to be way nicer than the MS66 one listed on eBay for a cool $275K. Great upside potential on it for sure.

alaura22

Curious, are you able to register the coins since the Blay collections have not yet been retired?

renomedphys

@alaura22 said:
Curious, are you able to register the coins since the Blay collections have not yet been retired?

Apparently not, but I’ll be patient in this case. I’m sure plenty of requests will be made.

jfriedm56

@renomedphys, wow-the ‘72 is Red as red can be. While the strike is a bit soft, she’s a beauty for sure! Congratulations on both!

ianrussell

Hi - PCGS is going to retire the Stewart Blay sets in the Registry - likely today.

• Ian

alaura22

Retired but not forgotten, your coins will live on.
Thank you Mr. Blay
R.I.P.

tradedollarnut

@ironmanl63 said:
The first one I won was not his number 1 coin for the slot. It is the 1859 MS64+ that was sold by Stacks Bowers out of the Larry Miller Collection. I bid on the coin back then but someone (maybe Stewart) beat me out. I have a wonderfull 1859 MS64+ in a CACG holder not sure which I will like better. Here are both coins which one do you prefer.

Serious question- are those of the same composition?

DMWJR

PCGS will have to delete them from his inventory after they retire the sets.

winesteven

@DMWJR said:
PCGS will have to delete them from his inventory after they retire the sets.

I think at a minimum it will take a call from GC or Stewart’s family for PCGS to release the coins, even though the set is retired. My guess is that GC is handling this, but no way to know for sure.

Steve

ianrussell

@winesteven said:

@DMWJR said:
PCGS will have to delete them from his inventory after they retire the sets.

I think at a minimum it will take a call from GC or Stewart’s family for PCGS to release the coins, even though the set is retired. My guess is that GC is handling this, but no way to know for sure.

Steve

Thanks - we're arranging with PCGS. I'm sure it will be completed by Monday or Tuesday.

• Ian

renomedphys

@jfriedm56 said:
@renomedphys, wow-the ‘72 is Red as red can be. While the strike is a bit soft, she’s a beauty for sure! Congratulations on both!

1872 is a tough year, maybe THE toughest in Gem Red. What you’re interpreting as “softness” is actually the result of either water on the planchet or oil on the die, or both becoming captive as the coin is struck.

Rick Snow writes: “Having nowhere to escape it leaves an impression in the coin. Usually these coins are called weak strike, when actually they may be full strike with strike-through depressions.”

My impression is that full strike coins without strikethroughs are available, but not with full-red color as I define it. In fact, most 1872 cents graded as “full red” do not meet my criteria.

jfriedm56

@renomedphys, I wasn't critiquing your coin for any faults. On the contrary, it's quite an attractive red 1872 IHC! I am also on a quest to add an MS65 RB to my collection, but as of yet have been unable to do so. I can't seem to find one with attractive near red surfaces and an overall full strike. Please do not take any offence. Your coin is magnificent! Thanks. And the 8/7 FE is no slouch either.

EagleEye

I'm writing a catalog of the sale. It will be in the next Longacre's Ledger.

winesteven

@jfriedm56 said:
@renomedphys, I wasn't critiquing your coin for any faults. On the contrary, it's quite an attractive red 1872 IHC! I am also on a quest to add an MS65 RB to my collection, but as of yet have been unable to do so. I can't seem to find one with attractive near red surfaces and an overall full strike. Please do not take any offence. Your coin is magnificent! Thanks. And the 8/7 FE is no slouch either.

This is NOT a Blay coin. I got lucky in finding mine. Full strike from new dies. While Rick Snow says it’s about 95% red, it’s clear that it’s properly graded as MS65RB.

Steve

jfriedm56

@winesteven, great looking 1872 IHC with the bold N reverse. Just what I’m looking for! (Or shallow, it doesn’t matter).

asheland

@ironmanl63 said:

@winesteven said:

@ironmanl63 said:

@winesteven said:
I placed my max hammer bid on two Indian lots, bidding like a moron, but was blown out so far I wasn't even the underbidder. That rarely happens. When I bid on a lot, I'm the high bidder the vast majority of the time, and when I'm outbid, I'm always the underbidder.

Two lots for me next week

Steve

Wow. I was bidding on the lower end lots. Got my first 66+ and 67 Indian Cents.

I guess it’s all relative, but to me those aren’t lower end lots. Congratulations!

Steve

I meant in this particular auction. They were probably the least expensive coins in each grade. Indian cents are my favorite coins and I really wanted to own some out of this collection. It has been said that many of these coins are the finest for the date and collected by the best eye for the type. It was a stretch but I believe it was worth it.

One of my favorite series as well! I would love to see the ones you got…

ironmanl63

@tradedollarnut said:

@ironmanl63 said:
The first one I won was not his number 1 coin for the slot. It is the 1859 MS64+ that was sold by Stacks Bowers out of the Larry Miller Collection. I bid on the coin back then but someone (maybe Stewart) beat me out. I have a wonderfull 1859 MS64+ in a CACG holder not sure which I will like better. Here are both coins which one do you prefer.

Serious question- are those of the same composition?

Yes they are and both are awesome examples in my opinion. I am keeping both but if I had to pick one it would be the CACG coin.

ironmanl63

@asheland said:

@ironmanl63 said:

@winesteven said:

@ironmanl63 said:

@winesteven said:
I placed my max hammer bid on two Indian lots, bidding like a moron, but was blown out so far I wasn't even the underbidder. That rarely happens. When I bid on a lot, I'm the high bidder the vast majority of the time, and when I'm outbid, I'm always the underbidder.

Two lots for me next week

Steve

Wow. I was bidding on the lower end lots. Got my first 66+ and 67 Indian Cents.

I guess it’s all relative, but to me those aren’t lower end lots. Congratulations!

Steve

I meant in this particular auction. They were probably the least expensive coins in each grade. Indian cents are my favorite coins and I really wanted to own some out of this collection. It has been said that many of these coins are the finest for the date and collected by the best eye for the type. It was a stretch but I believe it was worth it.

One of my favorite series as well! I would love to see the ones you got…

I will be posting photos soon of the other 2 coins.

ironmanl63

Here are the photos I promised. @asheland

oreville

@winesteven said:

@jfriedm56 said:
@renomedphys, I wasn't critiquing your coin for any faults. On the contrary, it's quite an attractive red 1872 IHC! I am also on a quest to add an MS65 RB to my collection, but as of yet have been unable to do so. I can't seem to find one with attractive near red surfaces and an overall full strike. Please do not take any offence. Your coin is magnificent! Thanks. And the 8/7 FE is no slouch either.

This is NOT a Blay coin. I got lucky in finding mine. Full strike from new dies. While Rick Snow says it’s about 95% red, it’s clear that it’s properly graded as MS65RB.

Steve

Your 1872 NDN cent looks to be 80% red but extremely high end for the grade surface-wise. I love it. Really tough coin to find.

winesteven

Thanks. In hand, it's a lot "redder" than 80%, but i agree it's proper at RB.

Steve

oreville

@winesteven said:
Thanks. In hand, it's a lot "redder" than 80%, but i agree it's proper at RB.

Steve

This is why we cannot grade by looking only at photos.