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QA✔️, EEPS, CAC, CMQ… what am I missing here?

renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

At least I’m sure I have the chronology right. Also… I have several “dual-stickered” coins. Anyone seen more? At what point are we putting the sticker before the coin?

To think: I used to peel CAC stickers off slabs. Kind of an “OK, that’s an opinion, now get that junk off there” reflex.

And as an aside, do you leave auction stickers on coin slabs as well?

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  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The chronology is not right there... Eagle Eye is was older than CAC, and QA Check came after CAC.

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  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MrEureka said:
    Sometimes we forget that other collectors lack as much confidence in their grading skills as we have.

    OR, Some just like other opinions

  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would swear I saw QA✔️ stickers before CAC, but EEPS is likely older still.

    No 3 sticker coins out there? 4?

  • CatbertCatbert Posts: 6,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Auction stickers come off the holder for my collection.

    "Got a flaming heart, can't get my fill"
  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2023 6:58AM

    @renomedphys said:
    I would swear I saw QA✔️ stickers before CAC, but EEPS is likely older still.

    No 3 sticker coins out there? 4?

    IF QA✔️is Collectibles Quality Assurance, they started in JAN-2015. Reference

    CAC stickering began in NOV-2007. Reference

    Edited to add:
    @airplanenut has the order correct.

    EEPS - 1995
    CAC - 2007
    WINGS - 2008
    QA✔️ - 2015

    Google the following article: CoinWeek IQ: A Guide to Certified Coin Stickers

  • TwoSides2aCoinTwoSides2aCoin Posts: 43,748 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Validation needs glue. Let's face it.

  • Cougar1978Cougar1978 Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2023 7:53AM

    Have no stickered coins but have some CACG. I like to buy right, pick out my own nice slabbed coins. Know how to grade and look at coins.

    Coins & Currency both US and World
  • 1946Hamm1946Hamm Posts: 754 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Add CMQ to the list.

    Have a good day, Gary
  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Cougar1978 said:
    Have no stickered coins but have some CACG. I like to buy right, pick out my own nice slabbed coins. Know how to grade and look at coins.

    Why not buy then raw then? You like slabs (opinions) but not stickers (opinions).

  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wings! Thats right, seen those too. That’s 5 possible stickers!

    We need a contest with a prize of some sort. I have a 1968 PCGS PR68RB (no stickers, but a nice coin) for the first actual photo of a coin with all five.

    Maybe that’s too much to ask 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @renomedphys said:
    Wings! Thats right, seen those too. That’s 5 possible stickers!

    We need a contest with a prize of some sort. I have a 1968 PCGS PR68RB (no stickers, but a nice coin) for the first actual photo of a coin with all five.

    Maybe that’s too much to ask 🤷🏻‍♂️

    There aren't any coins that can get all 5.

  • P0CKETCHANGEP0CKETCHANGE Posts: 2,157 ✭✭✭✭✭

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  • WeissWeiss Posts: 9,922 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @renomedphys said:
    Wings! Thats right, seen those too. That’s 5 possible stickers!

    We need a contest with a prize of some sort. I have a 1968 PCGS PR68RB (no stickers, but a nice coin) for the first actual photo of a coin with all five.

    Maybe that’s too much to ask 🤷🏻‍♂️

    There aren't any coins that can get all 5.

    Theoretically...Post-Colonial copper? If it bridged the gap between being struck in England but specifically for circulation in the colonies? And if CAC had seen it before discontinuing colonial pieces?

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  • rnkmyer1rnkmyer1 Posts: 309 ✭✭✭✭✭


    Here’s one that didn’t make the rounds.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Weiss said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @renomedphys said:
    Wings! Thats right, seen those too. That’s 5 possible stickers!

    We need a contest with a prize of some sort. I have a 1968 PCGS PR68RB (no stickers, but a nice coin) for the first actual photo of a coin with all five.

    Maybe that’s too much to ask 🤷🏻‍♂️

    There aren't any coins that can get all 5.

    Theoretically...Post-Colonial copper? If it bridged the gap between being struck in England but specifically for circulation in the colonies? And if CAC had seen it before discontinuing colonial pieces?

    Does Rick Snow do those?

  • WalkerloverWalkerlover Posts: 658 ✭✭✭✭

    More than 1 sticker takes away from the look of the coin. I would not get more than 1 sticker unless I was intending to sell my coins and I thought another sticker would add additional value

  • lermishlermish Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    This is the only picture I have of it but I think this sticker said "MDC" which is short for Mad Dog Coins? If I recall there was also a picture of a bulldog on the sticker. I couldn't find any info about it and it was scraped off almost immediately.

  • ScarsdaleCoinScarsdaleCoin Posts: 5,169 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @lermish said:
    This is the only picture I have of it but I think this sticker said "MDC" which is short for Mad Dog Coins? If I recall there was also a picture of a bulldog on the sticker. I couldn't find any info about it and it was scraped off almost immediately.


    It Watch Dog. Shame you scraped it. Increases value East Coast Dealer group

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  • lermishlermish Posts: 1,730 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ScarsdaleCoin said:

    @lermish said:
    This is the only picture I have of it but I think this sticker said "MDC" which is short for Mad Dog Coins? If I recall there was also a picture of a bulldog on the sticker. I couldn't find any info about it and it was scraped off almost immediately.


    It Watch Dog. Shame you scraped it. Increases value East Coast Dealer group

    It seemed extremely scammy... Like it was designed to look exactly like a CAC bean. On top of that, I couldn't find a single thing online about it. When I posted it here sometime ago no one could tell me anything about it.

    In terms of value, you know better than I so I'll trust your word but, for example, trying to sell coins with EEPS has not ever netted me an extra dollar in price. I would be very surprised if that sticker even added $10.00 in value.
    .

  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 2,430 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 13, 2023 7:44PM

    How about this one


    Mac Approved

  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 21,849 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Weiss said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @renomedphys said:
    Wings! Thats right, seen those too. That’s 5 possible stickers!

    We need a contest with a prize of some sort. I have a 1968 PCGS PR68RB (no stickers, but a nice coin) for the first actual photo of a coin with all five.

    Maybe that’s too much to ask 🤷🏻‍♂️

    There aren't any coins that can get all 5.

    Theoretically...Post-Colonial copper? If it bridged the gap between being struck in England but specifically for circulation in the colonies? And if CAC had seen it before discontinuing colonial pieces?

    Does Rick Snow do those?

    No. And QA Check is for moderns, whose Venn diagram with post-colonial copper looks like O O

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 31,199 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @airplanenut said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @Weiss said:

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @renomedphys said:
    Wings! Thats right, seen those too. That’s 5 possible stickers!

    We need a contest with a prize of some sort. I have a 1968 PCGS PR68RB (no stickers, but a nice coin) for the first actual photo of a coin with all five.

    Maybe that’s too much to ask 🤷🏻‍♂️

    There aren't any coins that can get all 5.

    Theoretically...Post-Colonial copper? If it bridged the gap between being struck in England but specifically for circulation in the colonies? And if CAC had seen it before discontinuing colonial pieces?

    Does Rick Snow do those?

    No. And QA Check is for moderns, whose Venn diagram with post-colonial copper looks like O O

    Yeah. I don't think you could get more than 3 of the 5 stickers on any one coin.

  • renomedphysrenomedphys Posts: 3,468 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 14, 2023 10:14AM

    Okay, so assuming it’s an Indian cent or a Flying Eagle for EERC Photoseal, you could also add CAC and CMQ. No WINGS or QA✔️? What about Watch Dog and Stew’s Red Copper? Or MAC?

  • messydeskmessydesk Posts: 19,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Isn't WINGS for world coins excluding US?

  • MetroDMetroD Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @messydesk said:
    Isn't WINGS for world coins excluding US?

    Look like everything, but U.S. coins.


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  • Morgan13Morgan13 Posts: 682 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No sticker for YOU.....

    Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars

  • breakdownbreakdown Posts: 1,944 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I leave Doug Winter decals on back of slabs. If he has sold it, the coin has his imprimatur as properly graded and not processed. For 19th century gold, that is saying something.

    "Look up, old boy, and see what you get." -William Bonney.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 31,429 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Are there any other stickering services started after CMQ?
    Is there any website that specifically tracks all stickering services?

    Numismatist. 50 year member ANA. Winner of four ANA Heath Literary Awards; three Wayte and Olga Raymond Literary Awards; Numismatist of the Year Award 2009, and Lifetime Achievement Award 2020. Winner numerous NLG Literary Awards.
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