Where do you think this monster toner morgan will close at?
goldrealmoney79
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Don't see these come up for bid on the market that often anymore, and I am always horribly off with my estimates, so more experienced collectors, where do you think this one will close at?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/305257677105?
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I saw that one earlier. I think it'll close somewhere at the price it is at now.
Perhaps another $100. toward the end.
peacockcoins
Wow, what a spectacular example of what some people will pay for a toned Morgan!
Generally speaking, I dislike "toned" silver coins. But I think this reverse is pretty. But I still wouldn't pay significantly over price guide price for it.
Apparently, others disagree!
$1751.01
Mr_Spud
Not exactly the same but a much higher grade. It's all about photography with these toners.
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For a MS63? Hilarious.
The OGH and CAC sticker are definitely contributing. It will be interesting to see where it closes.
8 bids and 5 retractions.
ebay should not be allowed to label this transaction as an "auction".
I want to genuinely understand what you mean by this.
Please explain more in-depth.
peacockcoins
To me, an auction is a function where people place binding bids for an item.
If the bids are non-binding and generally meaningless (can be retracted at any point, and the same bidder can bid and retract their bids multiple times - as is the case here) than I contend the transaction is not an auction.
My opinion only - YMMV - and I respect that.
Normally bids can't be retracted "at any point". It has to be very soon after your bid and as far as I know you can't retract multiple times on the same item.
It seems at the high end right now.
That has happened for this coin's sale. Same bidder retracted bid twice over a period of several days.
To me there has to be an element of personal responsibility for a bidder. Five retracted bids on one auction is clear indication that there are a lot of 'bidders' on ebay who are totally irresponsible in their practices. ebay set up a system that penalizes honest/sincere bidders in favor of charlatans hurling meaningless 'bids' only to retract them later. Consignor gets less money from the sale as well.
JBN- you make perfect sense.
I don't understand the logic behind eBay allowing multiple rescinded bids from the same bidder.
It makes it appear there is collusion with the seller when there very well may not be.
Honestly, if I saw that kind of activity on a listing of mine I would cancel any and all bids from that bidder
and block them from future bidding.
Who needs those games when legit trying to sell on eBay?
peacockcoins
I'm guessing 1500 is where it will stay. It's a common date MS63, I don't see how toning even got the bid that high.
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A reverse toner at that.
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I don't understand why nobody discusses the obvious shill bidding that is going on with this Morgan Dollar. At $1500 the bider's activity with this seller is 90%, am I the only one that notices this FACT?
It looks nice and has a money color pattern and palette, but I don't see a monster toned coin there.
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Most of the retracted bids show from a bidder that has been NARU or kicked off eBay. So it’s possible that person ran up the bid or had some other issue and was since kicked off.
The toning is pretty nice, but it being on the reverse, I’m surprised it is this high. But if it were in the obverse I wouldn’t be surprised if it was double.
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Exactly! This toning rarely looks this dramatic in hand. Hard pass.
Just my 2¢
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The colors on my coin show up very well on my coin in hand. Even better than the images lead you to believe. The problem is that you really don't know what you'll get until it's in your hand. It's a crapshoot. I wouldn't be surprised if a vast majority of these toners get returned once received.
The first thing I thought of was shilling. I'd sell this ms 66+ for $1600 anytime and for a good profit. Just being honest. That's what the ebay coin will cost after tax. There is no way those bidders are real.
Problem is this goes on a lot. Who's going to sell their coins on ebay a loss?
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Needs better images.
Needs to be BIN at the price they want.... given the OGH and bean
Ugly obverse MS63 with a pretty reverse?
Even if I were interested, not with my money given the obvious schill bidding.
Predict this thread could go on for months after the coin is relisted multiple times.
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I think the current bid of $1525 will be withdrawn, and it will close at less than $1500 Just a WA guess.
Doubt the seller will. A buyer might though.
Ended at $1550
Maybe we will see it for sale again as the winner was the same person that retracted their bid 5 times.
Just for the fun of it , check all his listings with bids placed, and see how many are shilled.
I noticed that.