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Too Good to Be True or Stay Away?

I am not inclined to purchase raw packs on eBay but I came across this auction and it peaked my curiosity:

Vintage 1961 1962 1966 1967 1968 Baseball 1970 71 Basketball Wax Pack Lot *Gifts - Auction #394977132496

Any thoughts on this auction and if the packs are legitimate?

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  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Not a fan of those corner folds from what I can see.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • mintonlyplsmintonlypls Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Never buy raw!

    mint_only_pls
  • DBesse27DBesse27 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Doesn’t your thread title mean the same thing or something similar?

    Yaz Master Set
    #1 Gino Cappelletti master set
    #1 John Hannah master set

    Also collecting Andre Tippett, Patriots Greats' RCs, 1964 Venezuelan Topps, 1974 Topps Red Sox, 1968 Venz Sox

  • pab1969pab1969 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭✭✭

    STAY AWAY.

  • coolstanleycoolstanley Posts: 2,372 ✭✭✭✭✭

    huge risk.

    Terry Bradshaw was AMAZING!!

    Ignore list -Basebal21

  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭✭

    Well the seller is halmorris... Maybe it's Greg Morris' brother!

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭✭✭

    .

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Seller has sold quite a number of items below $100. So why not sell these individually to maximize sales value?

    Seller has them titled as basketball? Hard to believe that's unintentional on a lot price of this size. This is no babe in the woods seller.

    In my opinion the seller is throwing out some bait, trying to catch a fish the size of a whale. I wouldn't walk away, I'd run.

  • Nathaniel1960Nathaniel1960 Posts: 2,301 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Can we get a working link?

    Kiss me once, shame on you.
    Kiss me twice.....let's party.
  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,229 ✭✭✭✭✭

    too risky.

    George Brett, Bobby Orr and Terry Bradshaw.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Received this email from Ebay:

    You viewed at $7,300. It’s now $6,500!
    Vintage 1961 1962 1966 1967 1968 Baseball 1970 71 Ba…
    price drop
    Vintage 1961 1962 1966 1967 1968 Baseball 1970 71 Ba…
    $6,500.00
    For a limited time
    Only 1 left at this reduced price.


    I think that's good news. Now I can get the five EX-MT commons in each pack at a reduced price. 😆

  • I dont recall nickel packs that old having 1 or 2 cards in them.

  • 19591959 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭

    Run Forest , run.

  • EstilEstil Posts: 6,815 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 7, 2023 10:28PM

    @1959 said:
    Run Forrest , run.

    Fly Robin Fly!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC_kCnm3GYQ

    WISHLIST
    Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P+S, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
    Quarters: 61D, 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
    74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
    1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
    1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
  • mark_dakmark_dak Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Take your $6500 to the nearest casino and place it on red or black at the roulette table... your preference. That lot is a gamble... and a bad one at that!

    Mark

  • EstilEstil Posts: 6,815 ✭✭✭✭
    edited November 8, 2023 3:53PM

    @mark_dak said:
    Take your $6500 to the nearest casino and place it on red or black at the roulette table... your preference. That lot is a gamble... and a bad one at that!

    Mark

    Speaking of which, you know how you might find a big stack of bricks at a construction site that reads "inspect carefully before you using; use constitutes acceptance"? That's what this guy should've done before opening a carton of 1972 O-Pee-Chee packs...there HAD to have been some visible damage on the outer box letting him know that going through with opening the packs was not not NOT a good idea?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjCeLNgFyN8

    WISHLIST
    Dimes: 54S, 53P, 50P+S, 49S, 45D+S, 44S, 43D, 41S, 40D+S, 39D+S, 38D+S, 37D+S, 36S, 35D+S, all 16-34's
    Quarters: 61D, 52S, 47S, 46S, 40S, 39S, 38S, 37D+S, 36D+S, 35D, 34D, 32D+S
    74 Topps: 37,38,46,47,48,138,151,193,210,214,223,241,256,264,268,277,289,316,435,552,570,577,592,602,610,654,655
    1997 Finest silver: 115, 135, 139, 145, 310
    1995 Ultra Gold Medallion Sets: Golden Prospects, HR Kings, On-Base Leaders, Power Plus, RBI Kings, Rising Stars
  • Stone193Stone193 Posts: 24,350 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Too Good to Be True or Stay Away?

    That should be "too good..." and don't walk/stay away but run!

    Speaking of which, you know how you might find a big stack of bricks at a construction site that reads "inspect carefully before you using; use constitutes acceptance"? That's what this guy should've done before opening a carton of 1972 O-Pee-Chee packs...there HAD to have been some visible damage on the outer box letting him know that going through with opening the packs was not not NOT a good idea?

    That's Eric Jabs - right Estil.

    I think I saw that and he was a straight up good guy on this one.

    His channel is a good one for examples of bad luck - even with boxes that are FASC.

    Mike
  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Estil said:

    @mark_dak said:
    Take your $6500 to the nearest casino and place it on red or black at the roulette table... your preference. That lot is a gamble... and a bad one at that!

    Mark

    Speaking of which, you know how you might find a big stack of bricks at a construction site that reads "inspect carefully before you using; use constitutes acceptance"? That's what this guy should've done before opening a carton of 1972 O-Pee-Chee packs...there HAD to have been some visible damage on the outer box letting him know that going through with opening the packs was not not NOT a good idea?

    @Estil said:

    @mark_dak said:
    Take your $6500 to the nearest casino and place it on red or black at the roulette table... your preference. That lot is a gamble... and a bad one at that!

    Mark

    Speaking of which, you know how you might find a big stack of bricks at a construction site that reads "inspect carefully before you using; use constitutes acceptance"? That's what this guy should've done before opening a carton of 1972 O-Pee-Chee packs...there HAD to have been some visible damage on the outer box letting him know that going through with opening the packs was not not NOT a good idea?

    That was painful to watch, particularly the Aaron card.

    Geez when early in the rip, he opened the one pack and found the Aaron, and he knew there were stuck gum issues, shouldn't he have proceeded with more caution? I've never had an experience such as this, but rather than separating the stuck cards haphazardly and quickly totally ruining the Aaron with paper loss, I think I would have tried some experimentation. Such as steaming or something like that. Which perhaps might at least separate the cards without paper loss. Maybe freezing the cards may have done it, i really do not know at all, but i would have at least tried it for crying out loud.

    Also I would have checked the internet and past posts on this forum, for anyone's experience with separating cards such as this from stuck gum. Perhaps he already knew it was hopeless, but for $5,300 i would have still tried anyway.

    Oh well. 💸

  • dan89dan89 Posts: 484 ✭✭✭✭✭

    72 OPC is notorious for gum bleed. Among the worst out there. Those who know know.

  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 887 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dan89 said:
    72 OPC is notorious for gum bleed. Among the worst out there. Those who know know.

    I recently ripped a box of 79 that came from a very reputable source/original buyer who kept it inside since, and the gum in every pack had seeped into at least one card completely. Basically, super-glued to the card.

    Big bummer.

  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @BBBrkrr said:

    @dan89 said:
    72 OPC is notorious for gum bleed. Among the worst out there. Those who know know.

    I recently ripped a box of 79 that came from a very reputable source/original buyer who kept it inside since, and the gum in every pack had seeped into at least one card completely. Basically, super-glued to the card.

    Big bummer.

    79 OPC is another year notorious for gum bleeding. In many cases, you can't tell from the outside either so a pack/box may appear perfectly find but if if was improperly stored at some point over the past 4-5 decades, ruined cards await. Another reason why opening vintage wax is risky business but still a lot of fun if you're lucky enough to find packs that weren't stored in a windowless warehouse or attic for summers on end.



    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • stevekstevek Posts: 27,428 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just received this email from Ebay:

    Because you viewed this item, here’s a special offer.
    A few other interested buyers also received this offer – it won’t last long. Hurry and take advantage right away!
    Offer: $5,400.00
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    I might take this special offer, just to see which EX-MT commons I would get.

    Maybe I'll get lucky with a Clay Dalrymple. 😆

  • coinspackscoinspacks Posts: 938 ✭✭✭

    Bad refold crease

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