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Buffalo nickel GTG *** Grade posted ***

gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭
edited November 2, 2023 7:22PM in U.S. Coin Forum

Not my coin. Guess the grade.

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  • SmudgeSmudge Posts: 9,594 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    53 comes to mind for me also

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    50

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  • MarkInDavisMarkInDavis Posts: 1,711 ✭✭✭✭

    A real guess when you can't see the whole coin.

    image Respectfully, Mark
  • privatecoinprivatecoin Posts: 3,492 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Xf45

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @MarkInDavis said:
    A real guess when you can't see the whole coin.

    You can see the worst of the coin in the pics. You aren't missing anything. Its not a trick and its straight graded PCGS

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  • erwindocerwindoc Posts: 5,171 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:

    @MarkInDavis said:
    A real guess when you can't see the whole coin.

    You can see the worst of the coin in the pics. You aren't missing anything. Its not a trick and its straight graded PCGS

    I was just going to say AU Details!

  • coinbufcoinbuf Posts: 11,516 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks smoothed or whizzed to me, as you say it is straight graded I'm not going to guess as I have no idea why it got a pass from the graders.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @coinbuf Im not sure why it received the grade that it has either. People are always knocking the other grading services so I had to post this.

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  • 124Spider124Spider Posts: 965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:

    @MarkInDavis said:
    A real guess when you can't see the whole coin.

    You can see the worst of the coin in the pics. You aren't missing anything. Its not a trick and its straight graded PCGS

    FWIW, I need to see the whole coin, at a reasonable resolution, in order to get a handle on its general condition. Very high resolution images can help pinpoint grade, but it's not the beginning or end, for me. YMMV

  • 2windy2fish2windy2fish Posts: 831 ✭✭✭✭✭

    AU details, polished….from what i can see….

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Its not my coin so I don't know if its cool to post the image with the cert and I cant get it to load into the program I use to blot out the cert number.

    Anyhow the coin is straight graded PCGS 58. It looks more like a 45ish maybe 50 to me so I think they got this one wrong by a mile.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also its a 37 D 3 leg so the grade affects the value greatly.

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  • alaura22alaura22 Posts: 3,282 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    Also its a 37 D 3 leg so the grade affects the value greatly.

    So, just another "rare" coin that got a free pass..................AGH

  • 124Spider124Spider Posts: 965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    Also its a 37 D 3 leg so the grade affects the value greatly.

    Wow; another excellent illustration of "buy the coin, not the holder"!

  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,485 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:
    Its not my coin so I don't know if its cool to post the image with the cert and I cant get it to load into the program I use to blot out the cert number.

    Anyhow the coin is straight graded PCGS 58. It looks more like a 45ish maybe 50 to me so I think they got this one wrong by a mile.

    I agree. The tail does show a lot of wear for a 58..............

    And it's definitely not UNC.

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited November 3, 2023 3:42AM

    That's just a worn die...

    I've seen others in Trueviews plus I have a couple examples (raw) I'll post later after work and they're Jeffersons if not more.

  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Coinscratch said:
    That's just a worn die...

    I've seen others in Trueviews plus I have a couple examples (raw) I'll post later after work and they're Jeffersons if not more.

    The change in color on the hip and tail especially indicates that its wear.

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  • CoinscratchCoinscratch Posts: 8,857 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @gumby1234 said:

    @Coinscratch said:
    That's just a worn die...

    I've seen others in Trueviews plus I have a couple examples (raw) I'll post later after work and they're Jeffersons if not more.

    The change in color on the hip and tail especially indicates that its wear.

    Thanks, I jumped in without reading the entire thread this morning and now I’m on the road I’ll come back later.

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Even in UNC these coins don't look great. I wouldn't say that 58 was a "miss by a mile".
    Here is my MS62, which to be honest I thought would grade 58.

    I had an AU53 CAC example several years ago that I sold, probably should have held onto that one.

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  • gumby1234gumby1234 Posts: 5,589 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @ChrisH821 The 62 you show looks 58. The 53 looks properly graded. Neither of your coins shows the heavy wear on the back hip of the bison like the one i posted. Your 53 is much nicer.

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  • 124Spider124Spider Posts: 965 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For comparison only, I show my XF45 copy; I've always thought it was a good copy for the grade (the mark under the eye on the obverse is on the plastic, not the coin).

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