2024 Baseball pre-season discussion is officially underway. Who is going where?
tommyrusty7
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I am excited about Craig Breslow leading the Red Sox charge into what should be an exciting pre-season for the Sox.
I look for them to spend big and pick up some much needed help in the area of pitching and defense.
It all revolves around Mr Henry and his pocketbook.
The talent is out there for the taking.
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Big questions now are on Trout,Ohtani. Will definitely be some surprise trades as usual. Pitchers will be a premium.
I sure hope some starting pitching is coming the Red Sox way.
oh, and Ohtani too!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I think the Japanese connection was established last year and will be added to in 2024 and Mr Henry's pockets are deep enough to get it done. He loves a full ballpark!
Phillies will break my heart again.
I'm already stocking up on tissues and eyedrops, preparing for the 2024 MLB season.
First, congrats to the Rangers, well played and much deserved. I had picked them to win in 6, but 5 is even better. Must be sweet for each Ranger player to get $440k for "playing" 5 games of baseball. Even better that Nathan Eovaldi, who spent some 5 years with the Red Sox, was the game 5 winner. Good on ya Nate!!
As for Breslow, he is the new shiny thing in the Red Sox organization. Much hooplah made of him, like his predecessors. The proof is in the pudding, and only time will tell if he makes good decisions, or tends to carry on the Red Sox tradition of boneheaded deals and trades. Red Sox history is rife with this garbage. I seriously doubt they'll get Ohtani and would like to think he'll cast a hard eye on pitchers already in the Red Sox farm system. Ohtani will command a truly out of this world price for his services. I don't think the Red Sox will be contenders for some time to come. I have no intention of renewing the MLB Package in 2024. But, I wish them well...OTOH, in the wonderful world of crazy Red Sox trades and contract obligations, Manny Ramirez continues to get his $2m every July 1st. He'll enjoy this until 2026 as the Red Sox opted to eat their obligation of $32m to him to be paid over 16 years.
I rarely post anymore, I find I don't have very much to add to threads, and somehow things have changed on the boards since I first got here, some 18 years ago. Not being standoffish, I lurk, but like I wrote, don't feel like I have much to add.
Got a full hip replacement coming up in December, then, hopefully I'm done with propofol!! To use a baseball diamond analogy, I'm beginning to round 3rd base and want to do as much as I can, while I can. My 2024 resolution is to spend a lot of my money on travel. So much to see and do in the US, extensive road trips will be a top priority. Hopefully I can get a nice New England trip together to visit the few relatives I have left. If so, I hope Perkdog and I can get together and find the biggest steak in town.
Happy Thanksgiving to all.
Happy Thanksgiving to you and good luck on your surgery.
by the way, you have much to add to these sports threads. dont sell yourself short
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
You are a very important part of these treads Al and I know you will be watching them closely over the next few months.
I wish you a happy Thanksgiving, Merry Christmas, and happy New Year and good luck with your upcoming surgery .
I have told you in the past to do whatever you want to do as far as travel goes as it gets harder to do do with advanced age.
At 84 the only traveling I do is around Albuquerque. My 2019 Hyundai has only a little over 24 k miles on it.
By the way if Breslow makes some good deals this Winter you will spring for the baseball package next year as will I.
@MCMLVTopps there is no such thing as addition by subtraction in sports talk. half the time what we're discussing has zilch to do with sports. don't be a stranger, best of luck with the surgery, and enjoy your travels.
@tommyrusty7 i've been meaning to ask you this for a long time..........ever go to Ruidoso? it has been one of my top go-to golf destinations for many years, and i even attempted to ski there a time or two. and i ski about as well as i gamble................not very.
you'll never be able to outrun a bad diet
No, I do not travel much these last few years. I traveled early in my retirement years but have not done much of it since I moved to Albuquerque.
Best of luck on a successful hip replacement and speedy recovery.
You might have been there already, but in your travel plans, you may want to consider visiting the Cooperstown Hall of Fame. I've been there twice and thoroughly enjoyed every second of it.
Word of caution - outside the museum, have a nice lunch there if you wish at one of their town restaurants. But stay away from all of the sports memorabilia shops as though they were the plague. By far the worst grouping of hustlers and frauds I've ever seen in my life, every single one of them. Like the spider and the fly, with the spider waiting for a tourist to walk in with a fat wallet. More fake Mantle autographs in those shops than grains of sand on the beach - LOL
To even think of the Mantle cards and other great ones that got destroyed between the spokes of my bike back in the 40's and 50's makes me sick!
Just patiently waiting ( not) for the free agents to start rolling in a couple of days.
Yes, I've been to Cooperstown. An amazing place to drink in all the history of baseball and the incredible ambience within those walls. We flew in on a private plane and only stayed a few hours. I remember the flight well!! It was my brother's plane, and he was IFR rated, meaning he was qualified to fly through clouds. Well, the flight home was almost totally seeing nothing but shades of white and gray, and it was turbulent. My son was in the back seat, and he and my brother thought the roller coaster ride in the clouds was funny...I was all but having a stroke.
Have travelled a good bit Internationally and have enjoyed those trips, especially Croatia, Italy and New Zealand, thus the desire to focus on the US. My road trips will most likely be kinda random, but I want to visit Michigan and Wisconsin, then head west into the Dakotas. We have no clock to follow except the need to have a Hampton Inn within a reasonable drive each day. Living about 80 miles East of Atlanta, its a fair haul to get to mid-west and Western destinations. Might have to fly into places like Sacramento to get a good start on Crater Lake National Park and Redwood National Park in CA. A drive up 101 along the Oregon coast through Washington is on the "must do" list.
I was pulling for your Phillies, but I guess it wasn't meant to be this year. Dallas/Eagles should be a good game, I the Eagles will cover, so you'll like that.
Tks for the good wishes on the surgery thing. Everyone I've talked to about having a hip replacement tells me its no big deal. I've had a knee replacement, that WAS a big deal. All in all, its my butt being wheeled into the operating room, I just wanna get knocked out, do what they gotta do and above all, wake up!
Yea the ironic thing is with the very popular hobby of stamp collecting back then, that some if not many stamp collectors thought they could one day have retirement money from their stamps, but today are near worthless.
These stamps in gem mint condition are offered on Ebay for below face value, and they still don't sell. I mean who wants to buy say the 5 cent stamps for below face value, but have to place ten of them on an envelope? How about virtually nobody.
A lot of mothers threw away their kid's card collections, when they were cleaning up the house, when the kids were away serving in the armed forces. Well in hindsight, the mothers should have instead threw out the stamp collections - LOL.
ME TOO!!!
Mt mother did!
I think most Mothers back then equated baseball cards with gambling which actually to at least some extent it was. I mean the various card "competition" games such as flipping, topsies, etc. without question were gambling games. So the Mothers wished to get rid of those "evil" gambling game cards if they had the opportunity.
We would play topsies in a neighbor's two car garage with strict rules on minimum distance, etc, in order to count as a winning throw. The pots were almost always a couple dozen or more cards, and sometimes amazing pots of well over 100 cards. Sort of like winning a nice all-in pot at poker.
Sometimes before the first throw, we would have an ante of 5 or more cards, sometimes as many as 25 cards, just to automatically start with a big pot.
At almost every session, there would be at least one kid, usually more, who was going to be devastated, and lose a lot of cards. Sometimes it was me.
Justin Turner has declined his option to return to the Red Sox but deal could be extended.
Sox also decline Kluber's option and most likely will not be a Red Sox next season.
Things are starting to happen already as free agency starts 5 days after World Series ends!
Joely Rodrigues is the next name that will disappear from the Red Sox 40 man roster!
Yamamoto is going to get posted. Hes 25 and has been the best pitcher in Japan for several years.
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This should tell us what John Henry is thinking. He either shits or gets off the pot!
not surprised at all about Kluber. I wasnt expecting much and he ended up delivering just that.
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
I hope the Sox can get some pitching.
oh yeah, and that Ohtani guy...
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
Signing Ohtani would sure be a good start. They need a DH for next season with Turner leaving and it would be a help in convincing that star pitcher, Yoshinobu Yamamoto, to sign with the Sox.
Philly not giving Hoskins a QO is a bit wild.
Cubs fired Ross and hired Craig Counsell as their manager
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Never heard of him...........Hope this doesn't turn out like the Manny Acta debacle.
"The Cleveland Guardians have a new manager. Former All-Star Catcher Stephen Vogt has been named manager of the club becoming the 45th manager in team history."
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
Will Breslow hire Ross and Napoli to the coaching staff and sort of set the table for Cora's departure?
Career backup that had one decent season as a starter. Was one of the Mariners bullpen coaches this year.
Supposedly spoken highly of, but it is a huge jump one year after retiring and does seem like it could be a plot for the next movie in the Major League series
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Philly has said they see Harper as their 1st basemen going forward and that they see Schwarber as their DH. Interesting in the sense of what that means for Hoskins if they really mean that
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If Harper is at 1b and Schwarber at DH, where are they going to play Trout????
these are questions that need answers!!!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
No problem there as he does not stay healthy enough to be anything but bench warmer these days.
Is every fan base in America talking about the reasons Ohtani might soon be theirs.
Probably every fan base is hoping to, but theres really only like 8 maybe that would be willing too spend what he will cost.
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I only ask that because I live in the Dallas Fort Worth area. Texas Rangers area. And sports radio had talk all season about Ohtani. Not too serious. Now it's like they really, really want him.
His first go around he wanted to stay on the west coast. He makes over 40 million a year from endorsements in Japan and the country does big ratings for his games. Some will be how much location matters to him. Texas is a team that could be in the mix. SD was expected to be but is probably out now with the owner losing faith in the roster. Giants could be there. Red Sox have the money if they wanted if hes be willing to go to the north east, Braves have the money if they wanted, if Harper is Phillys new 1st basemen Philly is likely out as thats just not a good fit. Yankees arent a good fit, Mets just had a fire sale, Dodgers could be in play and so on.
Hes going to have to only DH this coming year from surgery but its still an elite bat
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On another front is there any truth in the rumor that the Red Sox are interested in Trevor Bauer?
His agent Luba has been meeting with teams recently. They could have been one of them though the teams havent been named yet. Mookie Betts has expressed public support for his return recently. He probably wont be cheap but any team hoping to contend should have interest in him. He was very good in Japan and it was a big new market for him financially with his brands that he could easily return too
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He still has a great fastball so should be a no brainer.
What he was accused of was not proven so I would take a chance on him
Its beyond not proven, it was proven false by multiple courts including even a decision calling the accuser not credible which Judges rarely go that far to essentially call someone a liar.
The problem will be MLB and the media. He had already been proven innocent and got a suspension that was even reduced in arbitration because he wouldnt just admit to something and negotiate a suspension. Dodgers than ate his big contract cutting him and no team picked him up when they could have gotten an ace for a prorated league minimum.
Boston isnt a likely market that the media would be okay with the signing. Maybe after this awful season they changed their mind. Theres maybe like 5 or 6 realistic places for him to sign
Even though his velocity is up and he has a new pitch there is a good chance that teams have an understanding not to sign him and he will just finish his career in Japan
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That sounds like a lawsuit to me.
I doubt if they can get together and lock him out without a valid reason.
I think Boston would welcome him with open arms if he can win some games there.
A Cy Young pitcher that any team could have had for a couple hundred thousand for a year after the Dodgers cut him and no team signs him? Its really not all that hard to figure out what happened.
As a singular league only the NFL makes more money world wide than MLB does. They would bleed Bauer dry if he tried to sue over it, he still got paid anyways for being cut and did win an appeal drastically reducing his suspension. Only way he could actually sue would be if MLB put it in writing or an email etc to blackball him. Its very easy to do so without leaving an evidence trail. Its really the players associations job to stand up in these instances anyways, but Tony Clarke who is the head of the PA who worked for the MLB commissioners office very rarely stands up for the players he represents. Theyve signed back to back bad deals under his leadership.
Boston fans might be excited about him, but unless theyre willing to stand up to the media about it its a long shot. If I was Bauer id rather just go back to Japan where they love him instead of going to a market with a media that will try and consistently tear him down
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Interesting situation!
I guess it all boils down to the point of if he feels like fighting for his rights or not.
He has his agent putting feelers out there to test the waters so he must stilll want to play in the MLB.
Time will tell !
I am in New England, and I would personally welcome Bauer. I heard the allegations against him were false. I would have no reservations personally. Sure could use the arm!
George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.
It would sure be worth a shot tp have him in Fenway. He could be a very valuable pickup and sure would be a improvement over what they had this year.
Padres majority owner passed away. He was the one driving the spending. Decent chance the Padres get sold, have a fire sale, or both. I'm not sure where his wife or kids stand on owning the team
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Peter Seidler said in July, that his plan was for the Padres to remain in his family; a team source reaffirmed that stance today.
His mother, who is still alive, is the daughter of Walter O'Malley, and sister of Peter O'Malley. Also, his brother, Tom Seidler, is the Padres' Senior Vice President for Community and Military Affairs.
Steve
Plenty of money in that family to keep the team going if they have the desire to that's for sure.
I doubt if they will have a fire sale!
None of the players accepted qualifying offers so they are all free agents so the fun starts!
Who is going where?
Yea I knew the connection just wasnt sure how interested they were given that it was expected to be a decade or more before any change over before this surprisingly happened Hopefully they keep trying to win and they dont go back to operating like a small market team again.
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TTh Red Sox already have Yoshida so they should also sign Ohtani who likes Fenway park and bring in Yamamoto.
Having the 3 Japanese players on the team would fill the park every day and make the Sox owners smile all the way to the bank.
Youre talking about at least 450 million for Ohtani and Yamamoto, realistically over 500 million. Tanka got 155 million from the Yankees and Yamamoto will almost certainly top that plus teams have to pay a percentage of his contract he signed as his posting fee. Hes 25, he doesnt have to sign out of the international bonus pool money like Othani did with the Angels and is a free agent to anyone willing to pay the posting fee if they sign him. 300 is probably a conservative number for Ohtani as well even if he just becomes a hitter only
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