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Buyer claims usps registered mail package was received open

addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭✭

A recent eBay buyer claims to have received a registered mail package of 30 tobacco cards in an open box. No mention of if the cards are still in the box and eBay is allowing him to return for a refund. Please be on the look out if they pop up for sale. Thank you!

The bottom 24 tobacco cards backs are correct with the fronts in the scans.

The top 6 we’re flipped in the scanner so the Cy Young bare hand is a sovereign back and the McGann is a cycle back. The Brown is a Sweet Caporal and the Keeler is a Piedmont with paper loss.


  • grote15grote15 Posts: 29,373 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I am sorry you have to go through this BS with a known scammer like that.

    This is also why selling anything of significant value on ebay should be a last resort.

    Collecting 1970s Topps baseball wax, rack and cello packs, as well as PCGS graded Half Cents, Large Cents, Two Cent pieces and Three Cent Silver pieces.
  • CardGeekCardGeek Posts: 364 ✭✭✭

    He shouldn't have signed for the package if it had been opened.

    He would be allowed to return it even if it hadn't been opened. You can return anything on eBay regardless of the sellers policies.

  • pab1969pab1969 Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thank you for naming him. He will be added to my blocked list.

  • JBrulesJBrules Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Contact eBay non-stop until you get someone who will listen to you. Having proof it was sent via registered mail and info from the USPS that it arrived safely. Part of why registered mail is so good is it is virtually impossible to tamper with it and not be noticed by the USPS carrier. That is why you have to wrap the entire box in the brown tape. The registered mail is a very rigid process and carriers have to sign every step of the way.

    I had a situation where the buyer tried the "he sent the wrong cards" scam. I stayed on eBay until someone finally relented and connected me with the right department. I was reimbursed for the cards but I still had to refund first. The scammer got the cards and a refund. eBay has insurance for these types of things. Tell them you have proof that this guy is a scammer and provide as much as you can. They will most likely not want to see it but I still think it helps build your case. Good luck and hope it works out for you.

  • GrooGroo Posts: 19
    edited October 31, 2023 8:54AM

    Hi, were the cards sent from CGC, who authenticates for eBay, to the buyer? Or are raw lots not subject to same rules as raw single cards?

    My 1st post please be kind:)

  • jfkheatjfkheat Posts: 2,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Groo said:
    Hi, were the cards sent from CGC, who authenticates for eBay, to the buyer? Or are raw lots not subject to same rules as raw single cards?

    My 1st post please be kind:)

    Lots aren't sent to be authenticated.

  • addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for the advice, it is very much appreciated.

    I will be contacting the police and usps fraud department if the package I receive is empty for the return.

    I would love to see what the box looked liked when the buyer picked it up on video.

  • addicted2ebayaddicted2ebay Posts: 2,090 ✭✭✭✭

    @Groo said:
    Hi, were the cards sent from CGC, who authenticates for eBay, to the buyer? Or are raw lots not subject to same rules as raw single cards?

    My 1st post please be kind:)

    Yes lots, sets, packs, boxes ect are sent straight to the buyer. Sometimes I’ve noticed autos go through eBay and some times not.

    I truly believe in the near future everything over say 1k will have to go through eBay first. Seems to be where we are headed as a society.

  • PillarDollarCollectorPillarDollarCollector Posts: 4,204 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Best to sell threw an auction house there are some bad people out there and many desperate and willing to do whatever.

    Ebay should be a last resort for more valuable collectibles. Unless you put things high enough no one buys it using buy it now and have a best offer option that way you can vet your bidders and analyze their profiles before accepting an offer.

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  • jay0791jay0791 Posts: 3,471 ✭✭✭✭

    For sure get the USPS fraud team on this.

    Collecting PSA... FB,BK,HK,and BB HOF RC sets
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  • stevekstevek Posts: 26,686 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Another method to consider is small claims court. Just because Ebay might slam the door shut, or the USPS basically does nothing, doesn't mean it's over.

    I have used small claims court a number of times over the years, and found it to be very effective and highly successful. I'd be way too long of a post to elaborate on the details of filing, suffice to say, check it out yourself on legal advice websites which can be very helpful, and also be aware that the costs are not cheap. i'm not sure of the overall value of the posted cards, but it's possible that the problem is the small claim costs to pursue payment may not be worth the value of the cards. The other problem is winning a court judgement doesn't necessarily guarantee that you would get your money anyway.

    Generally my rule of thumb is thru research, if I determine that a judgement can be successfully collected, that the value should be at least over $500.

    Quick note - if the scammer is located in a major city, forget about it, small claims court is useless. And sorry to say that other collection methods are close to useless as well. Which is one reason why when selling an item of high value on Ebay, if a buyer is located in a major city, and I google the address and the buyer to me seems suspect, I generally will not ship the order. I simply cancel it and block the buyer. I mean why take the chance when there are millions of other legit buyers waiting to buy my item. See what I'm saying? If the blocked buyer wants to neg me, go ahead, what do I care about that compared to possibly losing a lot of money.

    Good luck!

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