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What Is The Value on a 1935 Fordham vs NYU College Football Program With 12 Player Autographs?

Hey, everybody first message here!

As the title states, my father recently handed (or gifted me, I should say) a College Football Program from 1935 for a game between Fordham University and New York University. Besides the fact that it is almost 100 years old now (2 years away), the program contains 12 autographs:

Charles Siegel, Edward Smith, Nathan Muchlowitz, Perry Geffen, Jack Begelmen, Joseph Mandell, George Hardy, Harold Boggiono, Martin Carlsen, Irwin Klein, Joseph Milanesi and Morton Sobel.

While that many autographs on a 1930's sports program is pretty dang rare in itself, what's even harder to find out though is the value on these autographs. You can find the program itself and 8x10's (and small pictures) of the players on eBay but not any of the autographs and not on the sports program itself.

The program in my possession does have some defects though. While the pages themselves are pristine, 1 of the 2 pages with the autographs are loose from the binding and the page which HAD a "card" of Vince Lombardi has been cut out (I think my father had probably bought this from a yard sale years and years ago knowing it had these defects honestly).

I would absolutely love to secure any value this program has by authenticating it or encapsulating it but I already emailed Beckett and they said that they don't because . . . well . . . the signatures are too old and they don't have them in their database. I can try PSA and the like but I do think I'm going to get the same answer.

P.S I also have two other sports programs from those years with more autographs as well that I would want to protect.

I know this program with these autographs have high value and I want to protect it but I just don't know how at this point except for an ordinary magazine sleeve. Any help would be appreciated!


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  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭✭

    sentimental value as a gift from your father far exceeds any monetary value

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  • @Ironmanfan said:
    sentimental value as a gift from your father far exceeds any monetary value

    IMF

    By no means do I want to sell it. I just want to secure its value with authentication and such but for those processes (or any of the like it seems), I need to know autograph value so technically I need to know monetary value and that's what I'm having trouble with.

  • IronmanfanIronmanfan Posts: 5,429 ✭✭✭✭

    Unfortunately I don't believe there is a monetary value to those autographs....

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  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2023 9:31AM

    Probably more value to have the pages pulled out and slabbed separately.... If the cover was signed, that would be one thing, but with the auto's hidden in the middle eliminates eye appeal per se in the sense the auto's would add value to the program.. But it was auto'd on the cover by "Charlie Siegal", so there's that!

  • @Ironmanfan said:
    Unfortunately I don't believe there is a monetary value to those autographs....

    IMF

    I agree. Unfortunately, there are no notable names there and therefore it has minimal value.

    Signed College programs from the 1930s are actually not that rare as players would sign for friends, family, classmates, etc. You just might not be able to find sales records of many as the majority are not notable / valuable enough to be sold.

  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,481 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2023 12:59PM

    You talk about securing the value as if you have a piece of gold, but it is more like bronze.

    Ebay doesn't show these things to be that valuable....

    https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fordham+program&_sacat=0

  • burghmanburghman Posts: 804 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 28, 2023 4:29PM

    I agree with the others saying the value is minimal. The only caveat is that maybe a big Fordham or NYU fan gets wind of it, but that’s still probably not going to bring in significant money.

    My Dad did a project in the early 50s and got nearly every MLB player’s individual autograph. I thought it was a goldmine. Nope - mega stars and rarities sold for a bunch (Mantle, Harry Agganis), but low level HOFers and everyday Joes are impossible to move, even authenticated. Can’t even sell them for $20, and those are well known professional players with solid careers. Unknown players like you have aren’t going to be worth the cost of authenticating.

    Also as noted above, protecting the program will hide the autographs inside. Maybe you can self-slab it somehow with the program open to display some of the autographs, but I don’t think PSA or the other authenticators would do that even if the autos were known to them.

    Jim

  • Thanks for the advice everyone.

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