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What Would You Do With This "Tweener" Joe Montana Rookie BCCG 9

I have owned this for about 15 years and think I will let it go now. I bought for around $125 I believe. I think if you tried to come up with a dollar value for the card ungraded, it should be at least $500+. It's just a very strong BCCG 9 in my opinion, which means to me it's probably an 8.5 from Beckett with maybe a 10% chance of getting a 9 from Beckett or PSA.

Here is what they sell for:

BCCG 9s were going for around $350 at the peak after the pandemic, are trading between $200 and $300 now.
PSA 9 trades for around $1,800 to $2k.
Becket 8.5 goes for $350 to $550 and Beckett 9 goes for above $1k, usually around $1,200

I'd like to see the subgrades for corners and centering, surface broken out especially here so would be interested in Beckett or HGA for grading, and of course PSA too but I just dont think it is likely to get a 9. It can, but just would be a very sympathetic 9 and not the most likely grade. I'm considering SGC as well because it's only $15 now for short turnaround.

Regarding the surface which you can't see well, the front is great and I have no concerns there. The back does have some imperfection but I actually thought it might be part of the card at first because it blends in well and doesn't bother the aesthetic much at all.

What would you do? Where would you send it for grading? Thanks!








Comments

  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 795 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2023 2:27PM

    I think you're optimistic thinking a BCCG 9 will cross to a PSA 8.5 or 9.
    That bottom left corner looks like the card was dropped on that corner, pushing the cardboard up and kinking the side.
    Plus edge chipping.

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 14, 2023 2:34PM

    In 2023 the card is a PSA 4 or 5 based on the pics which in addition to what Ron pointed out also depict surface issues.

    For more info on why I stated the above, read the below 2 threads, they will sadly be rather sobering and there are many other examples;
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1096302/crackout-results-psa-to-sgc#latest
    https://forums.collectors.com/discussion/1095727/been-years-since-my-last-post-but-this-is-warranted#latest

    Unless otherwise specified my posts represent only my opinion, not fact.

  • Chicago1976Chicago1976 Posts: 458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I recommend sending to SGC as I believe they have consistent, accurate grading, great slabs, and, like you said, a quick turnaround for $15. I agree with previous posts - I do not believe SGC or PSA will grade this card an 8 or 9. My guess is a 5 or 6.

  • Thank you for the comments. I think I will send to SGC. I had no idea PSA was sort of moving the goal posts as one of those linked threads points out.

  • lwehlerslwehlers Posts: 865 ✭✭✭✭✭

    i would love to crack that open and put raw in my set. great card. i also think it is at best a psa 5 or 6. sgc might give a 7 or 7.5.

  • ATimeBeforeBitcoinATimeBeforeBitcoin Posts: 15 ✭✭
    edited October 14, 2023 5:56PM

    @lwehlers said:
    i would love to crack that open and put raw in my set. great card. i also think it is at best a psa 5 or 6. sgc might give a 7 or 7.5.

    I really kind of agree with what you think should be done with it. To the naked eye, the corners are just about perfect and I love the card. I did mention I think it is a $500+ card out of the slab to a true collector who is not as much concerned with resale and just wants a good example of the card. I have just had it long enough now. Thank you for the comments.

  • jfkheatjfkheat Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭✭✭

    As AANV said, I think it is a $125 card at best. BCCG graded cards used to be considered to be 2 grades lower than their assigned grade. That has changed with the current grading standards. It may grade a 5 or 6 at PSA. SCG may graded it a little higher.

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,512 ✭✭✭✭✭

    SCG would definitely be my choice for this card.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • 80sOPC80sOPC Posts: 1,241 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2023 4:24PM

    I would sell it in that slab, you aren’t getting a grade above a 7 in a PSA or SGC slab IMO. Costs to regrade make no sense.

    Or crack and sell raw.

  • 1948_Swell_Robinson1948_Swell_Robinson Posts: 1,682 ✭✭✭✭
    edited October 15, 2023 4:37PM

    Most likely a 5. Corners and edge chipping are pretty noticeable. Looks like a surface dent just above bottom left corner on edge.

    I would just keep it in the holder. $15 to grade plus shipping both ways.

    PS the back issue will kill the re-grade alone. It may not hurt the aesthetics but it will hurt the grade.

  • RufussCkingstonRufussCkingston Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭✭

    A BCCG 10 is considered Mint or Better, so that would be a PSA/BGS 9... A BCCG 9 is considered Near Mint or Better, so that is PSA/BGS 7....... So 8's and 9's are for the most part out of the conversation, as well as the centering (which would be 8) and the edge issues makes it 7 range or worse.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 5,924 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @1948_Swell_Robinson said:
    Most likely a 5. Corners and edge chipping are pretty noticeable. Looks like a surface dent just above bottom left corner on edge.

    This was my thought. Lots of issues with this card.

  • Thank you for all of the comments and opinions. If I took the avg grade that everyone here thinks it should get, then priced out the market, it seems like the card will get the highest $ as a BCCG 9 right now still.

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