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Red Flags on this 1909-S VDB Listing- your thoughts? And relisted...
burfle23
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Seller has 100% positive feedback rating and had this 1909-S VDB listed; bidding was brisk and at $470 with 6 days left.
Seller states authenticity guaranteed; sending to a TPG "YOU DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK"...
I compared the MM with the current accepted genuine positions:
And the "VDB"; I know of only one correct version of this:
Resolution of the reverse image isn't great but the "N" looks like the "sharp N", not the correct "shallow N":
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I wouldn't touch it - the font of IGWT and the mintmark do not look right.
I agree with Steven59, mintmark would keep me far away from this coin.
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The mint mark, the VDB & the N don't look right.
A hard pass for me.
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Bad.
The damage would keep me away to start with, but it also looks bogus to me.
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The coin all together looks off. Looks brass like. V.D.B also looks different. Here's
one I sold
Pass (this should have been slabbed, seller would have better luck selling) jmo
Looks like an obvious fake to me.
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All I can say is that the mintmark is in the correct location for a die #3 specimen.
Pete
Hard pass... even before looking at the MM placement, VDB, and shallow vs deep N on the reverse, this coin has been harshly "worked". Look at the lines on the reverse around ONE CENT. This is the first red flag... on a coin that's really not all that rare yet heavily counterfeited, I'd be looking for one that's already certified by PCGS or NGC...
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It defies rational analysis that anyone would pay that kind of money for a raw coin based on photographs on the internet.
Such a coin is worth soooooooo much more certified by a reputable TPG than raw (if real) that there's only one reason to sell it raw--something's rotten and the seller knows it.
The focus is too soft to tell definitively but the MM looks bad from what I see.
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Not a coin to buy raw.
Seller relisted with more images; the "VDB" looks off to my eyes regardless...