For anyone who guessed less than 67, is it because of flaws you saw on the coin or because you figured that it has hairlines, but they’re not aren’t apparent in the images?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@MFeld said:
For anyone who guessed less than 67, is it because of flaws you saw on the coin or because you figured that it has hairlines, but they’re not aren’t apparent in the images?
It's a proof and those tend to be harder to grade from images than business strikes (in part due to hairlines that are less apparent in photos). It looks nice from the photo and I figured the OP would not submit it if he thought the grade was low, so that eliminated 64 or lower for me. I also think it's fairly difficult to come up with a 68 or above. Thus it came down to 65, 66, 67 and I went in the middle of that range.
@MFeld said:
For anyone who guessed less than 67, is it because of flaws you saw on the coin or because you figured that it has hairlines, but they’re not aren’t apparent in the images?
I said 66 because of these two areas in the original pic.
@CommemDude said:
Pretty coin, 66+ , I believe this is the proof set with the two staples that was totally white after 81 years and sold as original?
I believe that this coin is from that set. But 1) the set looked to be original and 2) it wasn’t “totally white”, as is evidenced by this very coin.
Yes, this coin is from that set.
Since the guesses are dying down, I'll reveal now. I believe I challenged a few others to grade this coin in a different thread, so if they want to chime in with their guesses later they can feel free to. In that thread I said:
"I cannot guarantee the coin will grade above or at PR67. However, I can guarantee it won't stay in that below PR67 holder for long. Of course, I have the in hand opinion of the coin, which aids me considerably. I think we all can agree that no matter what grade this coin is, the color will carry a significant premium, and it is not a $500 coin, even as a 65."
@CommemDude said:
Pretty coin, 66+ , I believe this is the proof set with the two staples that was totally white after 81 years and sold as original?
I believe that this coin is from that set. But 1) the set looked to be original and 2) it wasn’t “totally white”, as is evidenced by this very coin.
Yes, this coin is from that set.
Since the guesses are dying down, I'll reveal now. I believe I challenged a few others to grade this coin in a different thread, so if they want to chime in with their guesses later they can feel free to. In that thread I said:
"I cannot guarantee the coin will grade above or at PR67. However, I can guarantee it won't stay in that below PR67 holder for long. Of course, I have the in hand opinion of the coin, which aids me considerably. I think we all can agree that no matter what grade this coin is, the color will carry a significant premium, and it is not a $500 coin, even as a 65."
The coin graded at PR68.
Congratulations, Alex!
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
And the grades and TVs for the rest of the set. I believe these grades make this the finest original set from the era, but I need to do more research to be sure. A few sets on Heritage may have rivaled this one.
Quarter - PR67+
Dime - PR67+
Nickel - PR67
Cent - PR66RD
I have to thank @PCGSPhoto for the huge improvement in the quality of the TrueViews over my last submission - these are really really well done.
I do my best in responding to these types of threads to be as transparent and blunt as possible- I really like the op coin and the others that made their way into it- Not convinced that I would be willing to agree to a 68 without the same opportunity to see the coin in hand first. I feel that in order to be critical of a 68 - or support a 68 grade- I should get the same benefit of seeing the coin in hand.
And in all fairness- I am a huge fan of what looks to be original and unmolested surfaces. And I can at least justify that might have played a significant role in the final grade outcome. And if that is the case, I would rather be supportive than critical.
Congrats on the end results
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@coinkat said:
I do my best in responding to these types of threads to be as transparent and blunt as possible- I really like the op coin and the others that made their way into it- Not convinced that I would be willing to agree to a 68 without the same opportunity to see the coin in hand first. I feel that in order to be critical of a 68 - or support a 68 grade- I should get the same benefit of seeing the coin in hand.
And in all fairness- I am a huge fan of what looks to be original and unmolested surfaces. And I can at least justify that might have played a significant role in the final grade outcome. And if that is the case, I would rather be supportive than critical.
Congrats on the end results
You shouldn’t be willing to agree to the grade of most any Proof coin without seeing it in hand, first. Because as a general rule, Proof coins can’t be accurately graded from images.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
@coinkat said:
I do my best in responding to these types of threads to be as transparent and blunt as possible- I really like the op coin and the others that made their way into it- Not convinced that I would be willing to agree to a 68 without the same opportunity to see the coin in hand first. I feel that in order to be critical of a 68 - or support a 68 grade- I should get the same benefit of seeing the coin in hand.
And in all fairness- I am a huge fan of what looks to be original and unmolested surfaces. And I can at least justify that might have played a significant role in the final grade outcome. And if that is the case, I would rather be supportive than critical.
Congrats on the end results
I think that's a totally fair assumption and plan of attack for something like this.
I bought the set from images and expected the average grade to be PR64, with a perhaps nice PR66 half. Instead, I got lucky. It could have easily gone the other way.
@coinkat said:
I do my best in responding to these types of threads to be as transparent and blunt as possible- I really like the op coin and the others that made their way into it- Not convinced that I would be willing to agree to a 68 without the same opportunity to see the coin in hand first. I feel that in order to be critical of a 68 - or support a 68 grade- I should get the same benefit of seeing the coin in hand.
And in all fairness- I am a huge fan of what looks to be original and unmolested surfaces. And I can at least justify that might have played a significant role in the final grade outcome. And if that is the case, I would rather be supportive than critical.
Congrats on the end results
I think that's a totally fair assumption and plan of attack for something like this.
I bought the set from images and expected the average grade to be PR64, with a perhaps nice PR66 half. Instead, I got lucky. It could have easily gone the other way.
Non-defensive about your coins, honest and humble - I knew I had good reasons to like and respect you. Very well done on all counts.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Comments
PR 66
PR65
WOW! When I first saw it I thought "How the heck did he get my ASE?"
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/br/7usx7aaj0yna.jpg)
Your coin is a beauty.......67+
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
PR66+
PF65?
66
It is.
Coin Photographer.
Alex
I like it at 67
congrats
Edited to add:
How about the others from that set?
Mike
My Indians
Danco Set
Proof 66+. Love the obverse!
For anyone who guessed less than 67, is it because of flaws you saw on the coin or because you figured that it has hairlines, but they’re not aren’t apparent in the images?
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Here is a high quality video if you guys wish to see it - perhaps it will help.
Coin Photographer.
Very nice, I'll go 67+
It's a proof and those tend to be harder to grade from images than business strikes (in part due to hairlines that are less apparent in photos). It looks nice from the photo and I figured the OP would not submit it if he thought the grade was low, so that eliminated 64 or lower for me. I also think it's fairly difficult to come up with a 68 or above. Thus it came down to 65, 66, 67 and I went in the middle of that range.
67
Mr_Spud
Looks like a 68 to me.
Then again what do I know…
65
.. I'll play at 67+
Man, that's amazing. 67+ is my guess, excellent photography as always.
67
I said 66 because of these two areas in the original pic.
I feel like I see some minor horizontal hairlines on the obverse in the video. I'm going to go with PR66.
Play the video full screen at 0.25 speed.
Collector, occasional seller
It looks better in the video though, so 66 is probably wrong.
Running out of popcorn...................
Mike
My Indians
Danco Set
When are you going to post the results, the anticipation is killing me lol.
PF67. Excellent video.
I would say 67, and add a star if you sent it to NGC.
I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.
Beautiful coin. PF-67
Pretty coin, 66+ , I believe this is the proof set with the two staples that was totally white after 81 years and sold as original?
Commems and Early Type
I believe that this coin is from that set. But 1) the set looked to be original and 2) it wasn’t “totally white”, as is evidenced by this very coin.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Yes, this coin is from that set.
Since the guesses are dying down, I'll reveal now. I believe I challenged a few others to grade this coin in a different thread, so if they want to chime in with their guesses later they can feel free to. In that thread I said:
"I cannot guarantee the coin will grade above or at PR67. However, I can guarantee it won't stay in that below PR67 holder for long. Of course, I have the in hand opinion of the coin, which aids me considerably. I think we all can agree that no matter what grade this coin is, the color will carry a significant premium, and it is not a $500 coin, even as a 65."
The coin graded at PR68.
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/pv/b3b3flxcm0sd.jpg)
Coin Photographer.
@FlyingAl said: The coin graded at PR68.
Well, that should cover a year of college!!
Oh yeah, knowledge is power.
Congrats on a beautiful coin and a fantastic result!!!
65+ imo if the video is a correct in hand view.
RIP Mom- 1932-2012
I’m guessing that auto-correct changed “a week” to “a year”.😉
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Congratulations, Alex!
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
And the grades and TVs for the rest of the set. I believe these grades make this the finest original set from the era, but I need to do more research to be sure. A few sets on Heritage may have rivaled this one.
Quarter - PR67+
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/zh/7h84namo7jke.jpg)
Dime - PR67+
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/vb/1af66khw45rd.jpg)
Nickel - PR67
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/ks/ejg1ktbd0ef6.jpg)
Cent - PR66RD
![](https://us.v-cdn.net/6027503/uploads/editor/ba/phrxtzylc2wg.jpg)
I have to thank @PCGSPhoto for the huge improvement in the quality of the TrueViews over my last submission - these are really really well done.
Coin Photographer.
68 - score!
Congratulations on your fantastic submissions.
Congratulations, Alex. You have a great eye and grading skills to match.
Donato
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I do my best in responding to these types of threads to be as transparent and blunt as possible- I really like the op coin and the others that made their way into it- Not convinced that I would be willing to agree to a 68 without the same opportunity to see the coin in hand first. I feel that in order to be critical of a 68 - or support a 68 grade- I should get the same benefit of seeing the coin in hand.
And in all fairness- I am a huge fan of what looks to be original and unmolested surfaces. And I can at least justify that might have played a significant role in the final grade outcome. And if that is the case, I would rather be supportive than critical.
Congrats on the end results
Experience the World through Numismatics...it's more than you can imagine.
You shouldn’t be willing to agree to the grade of most any Proof coin without seeing it in hand, first. Because as a general rule, Proof coins can’t be accurately graded from images.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Wow Congratulations!
Apparently I don't know how to grade proof coins or I saw something that just wasn't there.
Collector, occasional seller
That is very impressive. Congratulations on a terrific set.
Student of numismatics and collector of Morgan dollars
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Great job Alex![:o :o](https://forums.collectors.com/resources/emoji/open_mouth.png)
Congrats are all the coins
I wonder if Juilian is seeing this
Mike
My Indians
Danco Set
I think that's a totally fair assumption and plan of attack for something like this.
I bought the set from images and expected the average grade to be PR64, with a perhaps nice PR66 half. Instead, I got lucky. It could have easily gone the other way.
Coin Photographer.
Non-defensive about your coins, honest and humble - I knew I had good reasons to like and respect you. Very well done on all counts.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Congrats, it's a beautiful Proof.
"If I say something in the woods and my wife isn't there to hear it.....am I still wrong?"
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Must have been a while since you went to college. That won't even cover a semester these days.
Collector, occasional seller
Simply stunning. Congrats.
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