1977 Quarter Die Mishap?

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Doubleb1000
Doubleb1000 Posts: 4 ✭
edited September 29, 2023 11:57PM in U.S. Coin Forum

I was hoping I might information on this error. So many different die errors, not sure if this planchet error or die error what its called. I know the coin isn't in good shape so probably not much value, just trying to learn.





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  • emeraldATV
    emeraldATV Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Nice catch, first. Can you tell us it's story ? Then...
    Check the weight for starters.
    Also, can you post better photos.
    Take a few, then pick the best of them, to help support an explanation.
    Cool ?

  • Thank you both for comments. So why do you say it's damaged vs cut improperly? Just curious. I have seen many pics of errors that like this, so how would one tell the difference. Both side have issues, is that how you know it's damaged? Would a die bad cut only effect one side of coin?

  • Doubleb1000
    Doubleb1000 Posts: 4 ✭
    edited September 30, 2023 12:39AM
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    PS... story is really no story. When I'm sitting waiting on something to start, I just grab some change out of my purse and see if anything peeks my interest. Always looking for that 1 coin that'll make me rich, lol.

  • yosclimber
    yosclimber Posts: 5,322 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2023 1:27AM
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    Heavily worn on both sides, like we might expect for a quarter that's been out in circulation for 46 years.
    It appears to have been impacted by an object with a curved edge on the upper part of the reverse
    (eagle's beak through UNUM, PLURIBUS, STATES).

    To identify an actual mint error, it is easier if you have a high grade coin.
    That way you can be more sure the things that look funny are not a result of circulation and impacting various objects after the coin has left the mint.

  • IkesT
    IkesT Posts: 4,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Doubleb1000 said:
    So why do you say it's damaged vs cut improperly? Just curious. I have seen many pics of errors that like this

    You may have seen photos of coins that did not have real errors (such as on eBay or Etsy), or you may have misinterpreted photos of real errors. Your coin does not look like an error; it looks like a normal quarter that has been dented by having something hit or squeezed into it.

    Within the bounds of safety, try to think of more ways to damage this quarter and then do it; try damaging your other pocket change while you're at it. That will help you learn what it looks like when, for example, a coin is hit by a hammer.

  • Greenstang
    Greenstang Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It can be either of two things, a damaged coin or an error.
    To be an error, it would have had to happen when the coin was struck.
    As what you have could could not have happened during this time, then
    by default it is damaged, no matter how it happened.
    Don’t forget, there a only a limited number of things that can cause an error
    but there are an infinite amount of things that can cause damage.
    If you want to study what true errors are, go to a site such as error-ref.com

  • AUandAG
    AUandAG Posts: 25,050 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    wouldn't this "error" be known about and published long before now? Certainly if it were a mint error there were more than one struck from that die pair and they would have shown up back in the 70's. That's the first clue.
    I say damage as well.
    bob :)
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  • World67
    World67 Posts: 13,098 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Doubleb1000 said:
    Thank you both for comments. So why do you say it's damaged vs cut improperly? Just curious. I have seen many pics of errors that like this, so how would one tell the difference. Both side have issues, is that how you know it's damaged? Would a die bad cut only effect one side of coin?

    It's obviously damaged from having something circular place on it and hammered or squeezed in a vice. The how-do-you-know question is a little more difficult. The best answer is experience. I've seen hundreds of these (as have others on the forum) over the past 40 years and it becomes easy to tell genuine errors from damage.

  • Doubleb1000
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    Ok, might just have to try that ou
    t!
    Lol. Just curious...sorry keep asking more questions, but. There is damage on the coin on both side in the same spot. Underneath each other... yet the rim has no damage, if it were hit by something wouldn't the rim also be damage? Cracked?

  • IkesT
    IkesT Posts: 4,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    @Doubleb1000 said:
    Lol. Just curious...sorry keep asking more questions, but. There is damage on the coin on both side in the same spot. Underneath each other... yet the rim has no damage, if it were hit by something wouldn't the rim also be damage? Cracked?

    Try it and see.

  • Greenstang
    Greenstang Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    It doesn’t really matter how the damage happened and you may never know how it happened.
    As I mentioned earlier the only thing that matters is that it could’ve happen when the coin was
    struck so it is PMD.

  • 291fifth
    291fifth Posts: 25,218 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Obvious damage. Worth 25 cents. Spend it.

    All glory is fleeting.
  • OAKSTAR
    OAKSTAR Posts: 8,770 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2023 12:33PM
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    @Doubleb1000 - You sound like the perfect candidate to become a coin roll hunter. Head to the bank and get yourself some rolls. Report back and let us know what you found.

    Disclaimer: I'm not a dealer, trader, grader, investor or professional numismatist. I'm just a hobbyist. (To protect me but mostly you! 🤣 )

  • jmlanzaf
    jmlanzaf Posts: 43,052 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 30, 2023 1:49PM
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    @Doubleb1000 said:
    Ok, might just have to try that ou
    t!
    Lol. Just curious...sorry keep asking more questions, but. There is damage on the coin on both side in the same spot. Underneath each other... yet the rim has no damage, if it were hit by something wouldn't the rim also be damage? Cracked?

    That makes it more likely it's damage. By what mechanism would you get damage on both sides during striking?

    All comments reflect the opinion of the author, even when irrefutably accurate.

  • FredWeinberg
    FredWeinberg Posts: 6,040 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    I see rim damage on both sides of the coin – and the Reeded edge has been tapped/flattened/dryer’d
    All PMD

    Retired Collector & Dealer in Major Mint Error Coins & Currency since the 1960's.Co-Author of Whitman's "100 Greatest U.S. Mint Error Coins", and the Error Coin Encyclopedia, Vols., III & IV. Retired Authenticator for Major Mint Errors for PCGS. A 50+ Year PNG Member.A full-time numismatist since 1972, retired in 2022.
  • silviosi
    silviosi Posts: 458 ✭✭✭
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    I will not go say damage, but I can say this it is now just piece of metal which if you can change is worth 25 cent.

    NEVER ARGUE WITH AN IDIOT.FIRST THEY WILL DRAG YOU DOWN TO THEIR LEVEL.THEN, THEY WILL BEAT YOU WITH EXPERIENCE. MARK TWAIN

  • emeraldATV
    emeraldATV Posts: 5,249 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Save it and think of it like this...
    "Your nesting your collection"
    Unlike if a car was discovered damaged on one side, don't test the way it happened with the undamaged other side. LoL. :o

  • IkesT
    IkesT Posts: 4,600 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    No need to save it or think of it in any way that emeraldATV suggests. ;)

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