Thoughts On Struck For Circulation Vs Released For Circulation

Manifest_Destiny

I collect seated quarters and don't consider the 73-cc NA a requirement for a complete set since I believe it was never released for circulation. I wish PCGS would remove it from the basic registry set like they did with the 73-cc NA dime and 76-cc 20c.

Carson City has those 3 issues and some others I can think of are the 70-s half dime and 70-s dollar, although the dollar was probably released into circulation.

Another coin that falls into a gray area is the 1836 dollar. They're classified as proofs but 1000 were released into circulation.

What are your thoughts on coins like these and if they should be included for a "complete" set?

Vasanti

A real “Everyman” registry set wouldn’t be based on condition. Instead, it would exclude highly rare unobtanium coins. At least IMHO.

MFeld

I think collectors should collect however they please. That includes not buying dates or varieties they don’t want to, just because they’re included in registry sets. And if possible, that would also include not worrying about which coins the grading companies include in their sets.
Said differently, (as I like to say) collectors shouldn’t become slaves to their collecting. Instead, they should do as they please and enjoy themselves.

Vasanti

@MFeld said:
I think collectors should collect however they please. That includes not buying dates or varieties they don’t want to, just because they’re included in registry sets. And if possible, that would also include not worrying about which coins the grading companies include in their sets.
Said differently, (as I like to say) collectors shouldn’t become slaves to their collecting. Instead, they should do as they please and enjoy themselves.

Everyone collects differently. For me, it started with albums and getting the satisfaction of completing them. For me, the “hunt” and filling that hole is more important than actually owning “the thing”. For people like me that have that itch, albums and their extension, registry sets, scratch that itch of striving for completion. It’s rather annoying when you have a blank hole you will never fill. The Whitman albums had it figured out. You had to “opt in” to opening that unobtanium hole and you could complete the set without it. It would be cool to see Registry sets so the same, and, yes, I realize this is silly and purely psychological.

jmlanzaf

@Vasanti said:

@MFeld said:
I think collectors should collect however they please. That includes not buying dates or varieties they don’t want to, just because they’re included in registry sets. And if possible, that would also include not worrying about which coins the grading companies include in their sets.
Said differently, (as I like to say) collectors shouldn’t become slaves to their collecting. Instead, they should do as they please and enjoy themselves.

Everyone collects differently. For me, it started with albums and getting the satisfaction of completing them. For me, the “hunt” and filling that hole is more important than actually owning “the thing”. For people like me that have that itch, albums and their extension, registry sets, scratch that itch of striving for completion. It’s rather annoying when you have a blank hole you will never fill. The Whitman albums had it figured out. You had to “opt in” to opening that unobtanium hole and you could complete the set without it. It would be cool to see Registry sets so the same, and, yes, I realize this is silly and purely psychological.

So your wife could really eff with you by reviving the 1913 nickel cardboard disk from your Liberty nickel album.

Or is she worried you would sell everything to fill the hole?

Manifest_Destiny

@Vasanti said:

@MFeld said:
I think collectors should collect however they please. That includes not buying dates or varieties they don’t want to, just because they’re included in registry sets. And if possible, that would also include not worrying about which coins the grading companies include in their sets.
Said differently, (as I like to say) collectors shouldn’t become slaves to their collecting. Instead, they should do as they please and enjoy themselves.

Everyone collects differently. For me, it started with albums and getting the satisfaction of completing them. For me, the “hunt” and filling that hole is more important than actually owning “the thing”. For people like me that have that itch, albums and their extension, registry sets, scratch that itch of striving for completion. It’s rather annoying when you have a blank hole you will never fill. The Whitman albums had it figured out. You had to “opt in” to opening that unobtanium hole and you could complete the set without it. It would be cool to see Registry sets so the same, and, yes, I realize this is silly and purely psychological.

PCGS has their version of that in the registry sets. Unfortunately, they're not consistent about it. They need to do the same with the 73-cc NA quarter.

Vasanti

@jmlanzaf said:

@Vasanti said:

@MFeld said:
I think collectors should collect however they please. That includes not buying dates or varieties they don’t want to, just because they’re included in registry sets. And if possible, that would also include not worrying about which coins the grading companies include in their sets.
Said differently, (as I like to say) collectors shouldn’t become slaves to their collecting. Instead, they should do as they please and enjoy themselves.

Everyone collects differently. For me, it started with albums and getting the satisfaction of completing them. For me, the “hunt” and filling that hole is more important than actually owning “the thing”. For people like me that have that itch, albums and their extension, registry sets, scratch that itch of striving for completion. It’s rather annoying when you have a blank hole you will never fill. The Whitman albums had it figured out. You had to “opt in” to opening that unobtanium hole and you could complete the set without it. It would be cool to see Registry sets so the same, and, yes, I realize this is silly and purely psychological.

So your wife could really eff with you by reviving the 1913 nickel cardboard disk from your Liberty nickel album.

Or is she worried you would sell everything to fill the hole?

Ask her how I feel about machine guns!

CaptHenway

I am of the generations that collected in albums and abhorred holes. I remember getting my brother to take me to a coin shop so I could spend a whole dollar on a 1955-S cent to complete my first album.
Slabs have made albums obsolete. Do holes still matter?

Crepidodera

Don,

I agree with you about the status of the 1873-CC no arrows quarter in the PCGS liberty seated quarter set registry, but for a different reason. I believe the 1873-CC quarter was released for circulation in very small numbers before the great majority of the coins struck were recalled and melted. I think PCGS should remove it from the set registry requirement because of its status as a non-collectable issue. For example, there are no circulated examples of this issue in a PCGS holder, so why require it for a complete everyman liberty seated quarter set? I tried to persuade PCGS to drop it from the everyman set requirement several years ago but got nowhere.

Doug

Vasanti

@CaptHenway said:
I am of the generations that collected in albums and abhorred holes. I remember getting my brother to take me to a coin shop so I could spend a whole dollar on a 1955-S cent to complete my first album.
Slabs have made albums obsolete. Do holes still matter?

Registry sets are the new albums. For me, I don’t care a bit about competing against others. Instead, it’s about “filling all the wholes” and upgrading to the best I can afford. It’s really the same thing as albums, it’s just that I can look at them on my iPad.

124Spider

I decide what I'm going to collect.

For instance, I don't consider the 1895 Morgan dollar to be part of a "complete" collection of Morgans, since it wasn't released for circulation.

Alas, however, I do consider the 1893-S Morgan dollar to be part of a complete collection, which is why I don't consider my Morgan dollar collection to be complete.

I also don't think that die varieties need to be considered part of a "complete set." For instance, the 1918/7-D buffalo nickel is a cool coin, but not a coin purposely created by the mint for circulation. IMO, such coins should not be given a slot in albums.