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Has lightning struck twice?? 1916/16 ddo Buffalo nickel

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I found one 2 years ago, and today going through a bag of no dates I believe I found another..... the date is pretty much gone and the coin is rough but i still believe it's a DDO.

What's your opinions?




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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I see machine doubling on the profile and feathers. Compare to one of the Coinfacts images.

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  • NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I vote legit 1916 DDO!

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

  • DCWDCW Posts: 7,605 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Could be. I'm not seeing the doubling on the third feather? I see the 6 has kinda made it through the wear. Id zoom in for details on that

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  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nope. No doubling on the small feather. I've got 2 just like it.

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @OnWithTheHunt said:
    Nope. No doubling on the small feather. I've got 2 just like it.

    Also no doubling on the braid cords above the date.

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  • VetterVetter Posts: 911 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Sorry, I’m not seeing the doubling of the ribbons or the feathers to match a ddo. Here is one I recently submitted for grading the received an AG03 grade. Yours does not match it.

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  • MarkKelleyMarkKelley Posts: 1,947 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I say sorry, no. The doubling is in the wrong direction and no doubling on the 3rd feather. Machine doubling only.

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 9,988 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like MD - you see it on the Indian's neck too

  • KeshequaKeshequa Posts: 109 ✭✭✭

    Yes. The upper loop of the second 6 is visible, just barely. First photo.

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  • JetstreamJetstream Posts: 38 ✭✭✭

    Definitely not

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Keshequa said:
    Yes. The upper loop of the second 6 is visible, just barely. First photo.

    No.

  • kazkaz Posts: 9,256 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I don't think so. As previously pointed out, no doubling on the stubby feather at the back of the neck, or the cords from the hair braid, which seem to be key PUPs on very worn examples. Keep looking!

  • HoledandCreativeHoledandCreative Posts: 2,825 ✭✭✭✭✭

    So much doubt. Looks good to me, how much? Someone please show a machine-doubled one with top 2 feathers doubled, 3rd is weak, 6 doubled, neck doubled, and chin doubled.

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HoledandCreative said:
    So much doubt. Looks good to me, how much? Someone please show a machine-doubled one with top 2 feathers doubled, 3rd is weak, 6 doubled, neck doubled, and chin doubled.

    If that's the case, why not make an offer?

  • mbogomanmbogoman Posts: 5,233 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Definitely NOPE

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  • KeshequaKeshequa Posts: 109 ✭✭✭


    First photo is OP
    Second is an NGC VG/Corrosion slab

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  • cmerlo1cmerlo1 Posts: 7,957 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @HoledandCreative said:
    So much doubt. Looks good to me, how much? Someone please show a machine-doubled one with top 2 feathers doubled, 3rd is weak, 6 doubled, neck doubled, and chin doubled.

    How about one that IS the DDO AND has machine doubling?

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  • OnWithTheHuntOnWithTheHunt Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @cmerlo1 said:

    @HoledandCreative said:
    So much doubt. Looks good to me, how much? Someone please show a machine-doubled one with top 2 feathers doubled, 3rd is weak, 6 doubled, neck doubled, and chin doubled.

    How about one that IS the DDO AND has machine doubling?

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Keshequa said:

    First photo is OP
    Second is an NGC VG/Corrosion slab

    Here is your homework - explain in one sentence why that cannot be a doubled "6" (Hint: just compare the OP photo to the actual DDO).

  • mr1931Smr1931S Posts: 6,404 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Nic-a-Date it and remove all doubt. Looks like an '18 to me.

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  • jmlanzafjmlanzaf Posts: 36,295 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    @Keshequa said:

    First photo is OP
    Second is an NGC VG/Corrosion slab

    Here is your homework - explain in one sentence why that cannot be a doubled "6" (Hint: just compare the OP photo to the actual DDO).

    No one said there was going to be homework...

  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @jmlanzaf said:

    @IkesT said:

    @Keshequa said:

    First photo is OP
    Second is an NGC VG/Corrosion slab

    Here is your homework - explain in one sentence why that cannot be a doubled "6" (Hint: just compare the OP photo to the actual DDO).

    No one said there was going to be homework...

    Make that two sentences... ;)

  • ChrisH821ChrisH821 Posts: 6,706 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Does not look like one to me

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  • BuffaloIronTailBuffaloIronTail Posts: 7,545 ✭✭✭✭✭

    No evidence of doubling on the inside feather.

    Lack of doubling on the braid.

    Sorry.

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  • OmegaraptorOmegaraptor Posts: 541 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I ain’t seeing it.

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  • telephoto1telephoto1 Posts: 4,961 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Machine doubling this time.


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  • NeophyteNumismatistNeophyteNumismatist Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Vetter said:
    Sorry, I’m not seeing the doubling of the ribbons or the feathers to match a ddo. Here is one I recently submitted for grading the received an AG03 grade. Yours does not match it.

    Well... I was off on that one. Thanks for the pic!

    I am a newer collector (started April 2020), and I primarily focus on U.S. Half Cents and Type Coins. Early copper is my favorite.

  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have no opinion on this coin. My personal preference in this case is a nick-o-dated coin over an unseeable date coin. I need to see it!! (The 1916/1916 in this case.)

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  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rec78 said:
    I have no opinion on this coin. My personal preference in this case is a nick-o-dated coin over an unseeable date coin. I need to see it!! (The 1916/1916 in this case.)

    What coin? The OP coin is not a DDO.

    From a preservation perspective and a resale perspective, it would be silly to damage any coin of value (such as a 1916 5c DDO) with Nic-A-Date.

  • rec78rec78 Posts: 5,860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @IkesT said:

    @rec78 said:
    I have no opinion on this coin. My personal preference in this case is a nick-o-dated coin over an unseeable date coin. I need to see it!! (The 1916/1916 in this case.)

    What coin? The OP coin is not a DDO.

    That is why I have no opinion on it

    From a preservation perspective and a resale perspective, it would be silly to damage any coin of value (such as a 1916 5c DDO) with Nic-A-Date.

    IF the date is not see-able on this particular variety, I pre-fer a nickodated coin over a non-seeable date, value non-withstanding. Personal preference only- others may want the unseeable date coin.
    I would not mind paying less for a date I can see.

    image
  • IkesTIkesT Posts: 3,619 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @rec78 said:
    IF the date is not see-able on this particular variety, I pre-fer a nickodated coin over a non-seeable date, value non-withstanding. Personal preference only- others may want the unseeable date coin.
    I would not mind paying less for a date I can see.

    I'm simply clarifying for the benefit of new collectors that applying Nic-A-Date damages a coin and reduces its value.

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