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Amazon Prime Doc Behind the Card

So I stumbled upon this documentary last night. I only made it about half way through because I found it very frustrating. A lot of it circles around what I call the “dumb money” that entered the hobby during the pandemic. It does a good job explaining that phenomenon but misses several things. It talks about how they left the presses running in the junk wax days but they are quick to say that is not the case now. Panini is heavily represented and they talk about how they limit production which I see as laughable. One guy talks about how kids investing in cards now will be financially independent by the time they hit college. I am not sure when it was produced, I know it was sometime before the Fanatics takeover, but half of these guys interviewed must have lost their shirts since this doc was made. The best part of the documentary is when they talk to the guys that have had stores since the 80s and early 90s. I will listen to what insights they have on the hobby. Has any one else attempted to watch it or have any thoughts?

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  • burghmanburghman Posts: 804 ✭✭✭✭

    “Financially independent” - where have I heard that before? Oh, right - around 1988 when I socked all my mid-80s cards away only to find out, when I got back in again around 2017, that I couldn’t give them away 😊

    Haven’t watched it but may check it out just to see how dated it already is.

    Jim

  • sayheywyosayheywyo Posts: 443 ✭✭✭✭

    I watched this a while back--- Geoff Wilson, Steve Aoki and Vegas Dave were some of the interviewees. I did like Rob Gough ('52 Mantle PSA 9) and the old- time hobby dealers.

  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @sayheywyo said:
    I watched this a while back--- Geoff Wilson, Steve Aoki and Vegas Dave were some of the interviewees. I did like Rob Gough ('52 Mantle PSA 9) and the old- time hobby dealers.

    Yeah I liked those guys too. Watching Vegas Dave was hard. That guy is completely unlikeable

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  • sayheywyosayheywyo Posts: 443 ✭✭✭✭

    LOL, Vegas Dave claiming he was the reason there were Multi-million dollar sales because of the Trout he sold and then calling the whole hobby a scam and worthless. Unlikable is being kind.

  • rexvosrexvos Posts: 3,274 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Wow all of these guys were so delusional

    Like the sports card investor guy excited about dibbs (fractional ownership of cards)

    Or PWCC bragging about loaning money based on current value of their cards in the vault, which bankrupted them which led to them being acquired by Fanatics

    Then the Panini guys saying cards are not mass produced as they left the presses running on Prizm and other brands, and subsequent losing all their licensing to Fanatics.

    Aoki’s attitude is one of the only refreshing things in the doc. He is in it because he enjoys it, not as a get rich quick scheme

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  • BBBrkrrBBBrkrr Posts: 946 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Aoki does NOT need anyone's money. Dude comes from a ton of family money and has earned tens of millions for a while doing his DJ thing. He doesn't need to make any money off his collecting.

  • 82FootballWaxMemorys82FootballWaxMemorys Posts: 1,292 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited October 2, 2023 6:58PM

    @burghman said:
    “Financially independent” - where have I heard that before? Oh, right - around 1988 when I socked all my mid-80s cards away only to find out, when I got back in again around 2017, that I couldn’t give them away 😊

    Haven’t watched it but may check it out just to see how dated it already is.

    Agree my friend, what total joke. Of course during the pandemic there was those here stating similar things

    BTW anyone ask Mr Goldin recently where all the "new money" is at. You know the funds that enter the hobby that he claimed was just a start and would never leave :)

    Unless otherwise specified my posts represent only my opinion, not fact.

  • AANVAANV Posts: 329 ✭✭✭

    @BBBrkrr said:
    Aoki does NOT need anyone's money. Dude comes from a ton of family money and has earned tens of millions for a while doing his DJ thing. He doesn't need to make any money off his collecting.

    He is a true collector. People give him a hard time because of his on stage antics and other factors, but he is really down-to-earth and a genuinely nice guy. If people knew just what he has dedicated to his personal collection , he'd get a lot more respect within the hobby.

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