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Help identifying this error cent my grandpa left me?

AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭✭✭

I thought it was damage at first but you can see the design of Lincoln's jaw and hair in it. It was in a hard plastic holder so he must've thought it was something special.

Delamination or defective planchet maybe? I don't really know what I'm looking at. Year is 1958-D in case that matters.

I can get better pics if needed.

Thank you in advance.

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  • TomBTomB Posts: 21,494 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would guess a detached lamination, but I am not an error guru.

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  • OAKSTAROAKSTAR Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Good pictures! 👍🏻

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  • Manifest_DestinyManifest_Destiny Posts: 6,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I think it's a strike through.

  • morgandollar1878morgandollar1878 Posts: 4,006 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Struck thru scrap.

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  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @TomB said:
    I would guess a detached lamination, but I am not an error guru.

    That was my first thought but then I remembered the few times (like 30 years ago) where I saw the piece detach, there were no outlines of the design underneath. Just an empty gouge in the shape of the piece.

    @morgandollar1878 said:
    Struck thru scrap.

    I believe this is correct, thank you. I looked at some other examples on ebay and it is a similar effect.

    Think it's worth getting graded? Super common but I get the feeling now that it has sat for 16 months, it may be the only way something like this sells. Prices also seem to range $30 to $300. Any insight?

    My only other experience with an error like this is a WLH struck thru grease.

  • AUandAGAUandAG Posts: 24,801 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I too think it is a strike through. Something in between the dies when it was struck. I would go to a coin shop and pick up a nice plastic holder to preserve it. Not worth the grading but it is a nice example for sure.
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  • dcarrdcarr Posts: 8,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Planchet delamination.

  • CaptHenwayCaptHenway Posts: 32,353 ✭✭✭✭✭

    My guess would be that a piece of scrap got rolled into the planchet strip and stayed there through striking and then fell out, but I don't know how to prove that from a detached lamination.

    How's the weight? Probably within tolerance.

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  • AzurescensAzurescens Posts: 2,763 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @CaptHenway said:
    My guess would be that a piece of scrap got rolled into the planchet strip and stayed there through striking and then fell out, but I don't know how to prove that from a detached lamination.

    How's the weight? Probably within tolerance.

    I don't remember offhand but I weighed it and nothing seemed off.

  • joeykoinsjoeykoins Posts: 16,457 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Spectacular!
    The condition is quite awesome, as well.
    B)

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  • johnny9434johnny9434 Posts: 28,585 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @dcarr said:
    Planchet delamination.

    I'll go with this as well

  • FrazFraz Posts: 2,118 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 27, 2023 6:51AM

    @Azurescens said:

    Think it's worth getting graded? Super common but I get the feeling now that it has sat for 16 months, it may be the only way something like this sells. Prices also seem to range $30 to $300. Any insight?

    The eBay searches for this degree of error cent land you on the edge of the mire of uninformed, careless, or dishonest offers. To get a better picture of it’s value:
    I would have had to look at a lot more sold transactions.
    I would have had to look at a lot more seller’s other items pages.
    I would have had to look at a lot of sold seller’s other items pages.

    From my look around, if you want to sell it:
    It has a chance of getting sold if it is graded.
    The price range you suggest agrees with the offer prices.
    Sold prices are eight times less than asking.

    I base my insight on quick observation, and quick generalizations.

    While I churned through that crap I bid on three cheap slabs, and put some raw dogs on watch.

  • JBKJBK Posts: 15,805 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Fraz said:

    While I churned through that crap I bid on three cheap slabs, and put some raw dogs on watch.

    :D

    Yes, isn't that the way. Go to ebay for a little research or comparison and end up buying stuff.

    I had a friend who wanted to sell some of her unused Princess House crystal, and whenever she went to ebay to figure out pricing she'd end up buying more. :s

  • Steven59Steven59 Posts: 8,963 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I'll go with detached lamination too...........

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  • ctf_error_coinsctf_error_coins Posts: 15,433 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Struck thru detached lamination/scrap.

  • ELVIS1ELVIS1 Posts: 174 ✭✭✭

    It's a delamination. I have several raw pieces I picked up years ago for $5 a piece.

  • 1946Hamm1946Hamm Posts: 783 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Looks like post mint damage to me.

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