Help verifying 2 possible errors?
Stayin_Humble
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The first is a 1875-CC Liberty Seated Dime and the second is a 1853 Arrows & Rays Liberty Seated Half Dollar. I've been contemplating getting them graded but am unsure about whether the 1875-CC Liberty Seated Dime would carry that much of a premium [tail on left ribbon on reverse]; as well as, if the 1853 Arrows & Rays Liberty Seated Half Dollar, with what I've gathered is a natural mint-made rim clip at 3 o'clock and subsequent corresponding area on the reverse, would also carry that much more of a premium.
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Something looks off on the dime, but Im not an expert.
I'm convinced that it was struck through grease but am not 100% certain which I why I figured I'd ask on here
I don’t think the dime would carry a premium. Why do do you think it was struck through grease? What part of them design is missing?
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The half dollar has a genuine clip. Very nice. I'd love to have it in my collection.
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Agreed that is a genuine clip. I haven't seen many clipped Seated halves, but I have seen a couple of 1853 A&R. Personally I would not be in a rush to get it certified since the error is easily attributed, but I know several error dealers here only carry certified coins and might disagree with me.
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An Arrow & Rays with a clip, love it!! 👍🏻
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It's a variety not a design flaw.
bob
As @AUandAG mentioned, the weakness at left ribbon tip is a die variety, known as "Reverse H".
The die pairing is F-117, due to the obverse date position DR 1C.
The reverse die crack pattern matches the reverse die state H.3 as well.
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1875cciw_117page.htm
Rarity is R4, so not especially rare.
https://www.seateddimevarieties.com/date_mintmark/1875cciwvarpage.htm
The Seated Half with the clip probably has a market but whether it is worth the cost of having it certified is another story entirely. Some collectors consider clips like that to be defective coins and not something that should command a premium. What you need to do is find the collectors who think it is an important error and one worth a premium. Offer it on the Buy, Sell, Trade Forum and see how much interest it generates.
My own personal opinion is that it is a defective coin that should be sold at a discount, but that is strictly my own opinion.
The 1853 arrows and rays half is really cool. You can see the Blakesly effect clearly on the reverse at UN in UNITED. The Blakesley Effect is a term used to describe inefficient metal flow opposite a clip on a coin. It is characterized by rim weakness directly opposite the missing portion of a clipped planchet error coin. At the opposite pole, a weak design rim ends abruptly at an edge that is unusually well-struck with strong reeding5. The Blakesley Effect can be the most powerful identifier of a genuine clip error.
You should definitely get it slabbed.....you can use regular service and save some $$$. The error speaks for itself. It would bring a decent premium to the right collector or dealer in error coins.
Thank you! I appreciate the clarity for this!
Nice clip on the half (error)
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
The clip is genuine, and I would NOT get it slabbed as the slab would make the clip very hard to see.
Thanks for the input!
I have a similar clip...used the Regular service....the edge view holder lets you clearly see the clip and the TrueView really shows it off. It is much more saleable if it is in a slab IMO.
How much did it cost you to slab it?