Long Beach Submissions

alefzero

I think I did pretty well in this endeavor. They were running a crossover special - always welcome to me. 5 of the last 7 didn't get attributed. So that 1797 administrative error will simply be corrected when I resend for variety attribution.

PCGS # Description Grade Region
39978 1795 $1 BB-11, Flowing Hair VG08 USA
40046 1799 $1 BB-154 XF45 USA
40069 1800 $1 BB-183 VF35 USA
40071 1800 $1 BB-185 Reiver XF45 USA
40080 1800 $1 10 Arrows, BB-195 XF45 USA
40040 1798 $1 BB-123 VF25 USA
40059 1799 $1 BB-168 VF25 USA
40081 1800 $1 BB-191, AMERICAI VF25 USA * tougher of the 2 AMERICAI varieties *
40091 1802/1 $1 BB-231, Close Date VF25 USA
39299 1806/5 50C Overton 103 Large Stars XF40 USA
7056 1876 T$1 PR61 USA * C-6 Transitional Proof *
40000 1796 $1 BB-61, Small Date, Large Letters VF25 USA
40006 1798 $1 Small Eagle, 13 Stars B-1, BB-82 Genuine Fine Details (98 - Damage) USA
40011 1798 $1 BB-96 5 Lines Knob 9 Genuine XF Details (97 - Environmental Damage) USA
40019 1798 $1 BB-102 Genuine VF Details (98 - Damage) USA
40022 1798 $1 BB-105 VF30 USA
40062 1799 $1 Irregular Date, 15 Stars BB-153 Genuine VF Details (92 - Cleaned) USA
40070 1800 $1 BB-184 Genuine XF Details (95 - Scratch) USA
40073 1800 $1 B-16 BB-187 VF25 USA
40080 1800 $1 10 Arrows, BB-195 AU58+ USA
40079 1800 $1 B-17 BB-196 12 Arrows Genuine XF Details (94 - Altered Surf.) USA * Rare pre-clash *
40086 1801 $1 B-4 BB-214 Genuine VF Details (92 - Cleaned) USA
40092 1802/1 $1 B-4 BB-232 Close Date VF20 USA
40096 1803 $1 B-1 BB-251 Small 3 Genuine VG Details (98 - Damage) USA
40097 1803 $1 B-5 BB-252 Small 3 XF40 USA
928886 1876-S T$1 FS-301, C-35 RPD Small S Left AU53 USA
516340 1877 T$1 FS-101, C-13 DDO Chopmarked VF30 USA
928909 1877-S T$1 FS-802, C-16.1 DDR MS62 USA
928910 1877-S T$1 FS-802, C-17 DDR MS64 USA
928910 1877-S T$1 FS-802, C-17 DDR AU55 USA
928910 1877-S T$1 FS-802, C-17 DDR Genuine AU Details (98 - Damage) USA
145812 1877-S T$1 FS-301, C-21 RPD & RPM Genuine XF Details (98 - Damage) USA
145811 1877-S T$1 FS-801, C-46 DDR Genuine AU Details (97 - Environmental Damage) USA
E41166 1880-O $1 VAM 7 Rusted Date MS64 USA * huge lamination *
6863 1797 $1 9X7 Stars, Large Letters VF20 USA * wrong - 10x6 stars BB-71 *
40029 1798 $1 BB-112 Pt 9 4 Lines AU53 USA
6873 1798 $1 Large Eagle VF30 USA * BB-120 *
40063 1799 $1 B-23 BB-159 8x5 Stars XF40 USA
6887 1800 $1 XF40 USA * BB-184 *
6887 1800 $1 VF20 USA * BB-190 *
7048 1878-S T$1 Trade MS61 USA * FS-801 C-18.1 *

1madman

If you choose to “cross at any grade”, then the crossover special serves no benefit to you

lermish

Nicely done!

alefzero

@1madman said:
If you choose to “cross at any grade”, then the crossover special serves no benefit to you

Agreed. The crossover special is special in the $15 if it does not cross (was free the first time they did it). I always specify the current grade as the minimum. At any grade is not taking advantage of anything at all.

1madman

I guess what I’m getting at is why did you decide to use show grade to cross details coins? Those should go through the cheapest service, not one of the most expensive. Even crack and submit raw might be smarter to avoid the 1% cross fee. Help me understand the logic please.

Also, did all of your coins cross, or did you only list the ones that did?

alefzero

@1madman said:
I guess what I’m getting at is why did you decide to use show grade to cross details coins? Those should go through the cheapest service, not one of the most expensive. Even crack and submit raw might be smarter to avoid the 1% cross fee. Help me understand the logic please.

Also, did all of your coins cross, or did you only list the ones that did?

I left out the DNC lines. One order, the one with details grades, were just ones in PCGS holders that I wanted the variety added to the tag. That was a Show Reholder with variety submission. The last 7 were PCGS a PCGS Regrade order. 5 of them were OGH and I figured I might try to get upgrades, rather than just reholder with attribution. Ended up tgey didn't do the attributions on that order anyway. So they were reholders effectively except for one upgrade: BB-159 from 35 to 40.

I got 11 of 33 in the Show Standard and Show Economy orders. Not sure what is a typical ratio. I have had orders with all DNC, orders with all crossing at or above grade, and everything in between in my experience. 1 cross for 2 DNC is not bad and exactly how this special worked in my favor. 22x$15=$330 is not too bad to have tried the ones that DNCed.

I had 4 orders:

15 Show Standard Crossover (5 crossed)
18 Show Economy Crossover (6 crossed)
23 Show Reholder with Attribution
7 Show Regrade (with Attribution, but not able to get done) (1 upgrade)

That order of 23 is where the confusion was.

Also got fees added in the Economy order where the price guide price exceeded the Economy limit. Fair enough.

lermish

I always thought that they wouldn't do minor variety attribution in Show Grading and it has to go back to the office. Maybe that's the issue?

alefzero

@lermish said:
I always thought that they wouldn't do minor variety attribution in Show Grading and it has to go back to the office. Maybe that's the issue?

I get away with it most of the time. It always helps to put that PCGS number on the form I think. They did attribute 3 of the 4 orders.