1984D Lincoln penny on Defective 10 cent planchette
Mestandard
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I have a question about this very unusual penny that I found. I'm new to collecting but I've done a little research and here's what I found.
This penny it looks like a penny BUT it was struck on a defective 10 cent planchette. The copper core is exposed on both sides and it was struck directly on the copper core.
From what I understand during the cladding process some coolant got trapped between the cladding and the copper core and after several trips through the furnace it basically exploded blowing the cladding off of the copper core. After the silver coating blew off the planchette material it was rolled to the proper thickness . I assume they punch out the planchette from that material.
With more assumptions I believe someone at the mint found the defective 10 cent planchettes that looked like a penny planchette and tossed it in the penny bin.
The end result is a 1984D wrong/defective planchette penny with 100% copper exposed on the face side and 95% on the reverse side both and a silver rim all the way around.
The coin weighs 2.26 grams and is the same size and thickness as a Roosevelt dime.
The coin is really really beautiful and in great condition and I believe it's a one of a kind. This coin represents the perfect storm because to anyone glancing at ut it looks like a penny. I believe it was found with the dime planchettes someone at the mint thought it was a penny planchette and tossed it in the penny bin. That's the perfect storm that created this beautiful and unique coin.
I have no idea what the coin is worth. Obviously the value is what the market will bare and taking everything I said into consideration and the uniqueness and quality of this coin I think the sky is the limit if it's brought to auction
I would like to sell it to someone with the time and finances to have it graded and brought to auction. I do not have the time or money to make that happen and I would entertain and accept any reasonable offer I get for this coin.
As an investment I think this coin is a win win win for someone out there and me too because I need the money.
Please let me know what you think and I apologize for writing a book here I just wanted you to know everything v I found out to this point
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I forgot to post the pics I took.
Welcome to the forum! Well, I suspect based on some of the things you’ve researched that you may not have what you think you do have. Just FYI, it is a planchet a coin is struck on, not planchette (which is a whole different thing unrelated to coins). I’m not sure in the coin minting process that cladding would “explode off” through multiple trips through a furnace.
Best thing you can do is post a clear image of both sides of the coin you have and you will be able to get some expert eyes on your coin to give you some information. Without images, you will not be able to get any reasonable answer on what you actually have. Also, you may want to correct your post or title, as you say 1984 and 1994 as the dates.
Welcome to the forum.
You will have a far better chance of obtaining helpful feedback by posting clear pictures of each side of the coin.
Mark Feld* of Heritage Auctions*Unless otherwise noted, my posts here represent my personal opinions.
Please read the next post that's where I got the information about it exploding in the furnace. I have also posted better pics below. If you held this thing in your hand there's no question about it what it is a defective 10 cent planchette struck as a 1984 d Lincoln cent
The above two comments don't seem compatible. If it is missing a clad layer, how would it be the same size and thickness as a dime?
In any case, pictures are a necessity. Also, if you are looking to sell, the thread should be on the BST Forum.
The coin has exposed copper core both sides silver around the rim rolled to the same exact thickness as a dime and the same weight as a dime.
What that post states is " the 1997 dime struck on a planchette with the copper core exposed and rolled to the proper thickness. There is also an area where piled up cladding fell out before being struck. Coolant trapped between clad layers in the early stages of the bonding process causes this type of error. After repeated passes through the bonding mill he trapped coolant eventually "explodes" due to the extreme heat exposing the copper core and areas have folded over clapping". Anyway that's what it says and you have my word it is what it is it was going to be a 10 cent planchette but it was defective somebody pulled it from the 10 cent planchette and apparently tossed it in with the pennies where it was struck.. also I want to apologize if there are a couple mistakes regarding the date or how to spell planchette my first go around I've only been collecting coins a couple of months and a few weeks ago I didn't even know what a planchette was so please bare with me as I learn more over time.
Please read the fine print on my post showing the dime with exposed copper core. That post states that the material is rolled to the proper thickness after the cladding is blown off.
That post does not say what you think it says.
Your coin was damaged after it left the mint. It was stuck on a copper-coated zinc planchet like all other normal 1984 cents, then someone tapped it around the edge to change its size and shape.
I wish I had better news for you but all you have is a normal cent that was damaged after it left the mint. It is not a mint error of any kind and has no numismatic value.
That is totally ridiculous and you are totally wrong it is a defective 10-cent planchette nobody messed with this coin period. I take offense to that statement you're assuming a whole lot without having the coin in your hand i'm trying to get some information here and it is exactly what I say this and whoever you are that said that you're going to feel really stupid when this thing goes to auction and sells for probably the highest amount ever paid for this type of error.
Welcome to the forum!
What you have there is post mint damage (PMD) on a standard zinc core cent.
My mother taught me a long long time ago but if you didn't have something nice to say don't say anything at all. Being a hater and posting things about a coin being somehow messed with is negative and damaging. I came here to get some information on my defective $0.10 planchette not to be accused of messing with the penny it was not a penny ground down to look like a 10 cent coin it is in fact a defective 10 cent that's had the cladding blown off of it during the milling process as stated clearly in the post above.
We are sorry you don't think the truth is nice.
Dont be a hater. If you found this coin you would determine the same thing I did but because you didn't find it and you can't read English or you would understand what I said is what the post says. I quoted the post ver batum. One last thing please do not make definite statement about what you do not know for a fact. It would be better to say in your opinion the coin was damaged after leaving the mint. Either way you are wrong .
Nobody has accused you of messing with that coin.
That coin was produced 39 years ago. At some point in the last 39 years, it was damaged. Maybe it was caught in some machinery and the damage was accidental. Maybe it was damaged by someone on purpose. The damage is clear from your photos. The cause of the damage is academic.
It's clear you didn't come here with an open mind looking for information about your coin.
No matter what anyone here says you will not listen.
There is an easy way for you to find out the truth but it will mess up your fantasy about your coin, take it to a pawn shop, jeweler or a "we buy gold" place and have it scanned. If the scan turns up copper & zinc you have a normal cent with PMD, if the scan turns out to be nickel & copper you have a dime planchet.
Or you can just put your money where your mouth is and send it in for grading but I don't think you will believe the grading company either.
No matter what you decide to do calm down and don't get your panties in a bunch.
It looks like dryer coin with the reduced diameter and thick rims.
Value 1 cent
You are totally wrong nobody damaged the coin it is a defective 10 cent planchette period. I am a DSA building inspector and I know what I know about this coin. Your statement does not take into consideration dual denomination coins coins that are struck on the wrong planchette or a planchette with an error caused by coolant trapped between the cladding being blown off during the cladding process. Your statement would apply to every single coin that was struck on the wrong planchette or every single planchette error with a with an exposed core. It would be absolutely impossible to make this coin the exact same thickness the exact same size and the exact same weight as a 10 cent coin that is impossible so your statement is totally wrong. I think I'll have this thing sent in for a grading and when you read about this thing going to auction you'll eat your words.
First of all I don't wear panties so I don't appreciate that statement. And I've already had it scanned it is what it is I just don't know what it's worth. I have no open mind whatsoever to any statement that says that it was somehow tampered with or reduced to the size of a dime from a penny that is impossible that is stupid I have it right here you do not so thank you for your comment but save it for somebody else because I already know what I have it's a 10 cent planchette. I'm not here trying to find out what it is I'm just trying to find out what it's worth.
It's worth 1 cent.
Now you have your answer.
@Mestandard "you're going to feel really stupid when this thing goes to auction and sells for probably the highest amount ever paid for this type of error." "and when you read about this thing going to auction you'll eat your words."
You are going to feel really stupid when you realize the truth and I am willing to bet you will not come back here and admit how stupid you were.
Please come back and give us a link to the auction.
So the scan showed nickel in the composition?
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Since the consensus is that it has been damaged, but you have the coin in hand, there is only one way to prove it: Send it to the experts at PCGS and have it graded. If it is what you say it is grading will only increase the price at auction or sale.
Good luck,
bob
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This is just kind of pathetic and sad, and is one of the worst troll jobs I have seen in a long time. @Mestandard if you are going to troll this forum at least try to make it entertaining. Try harder I am sure you can do better.
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I vote dryer coin also....next
"When they can't find anything wrong with you, they create it!"
@Mestandard "I've only been collecting coins a couple of months and a few weeks ago I didn't even know what a planchette was"
Wow! Only collecting a couple of months but yet you know more than experts with over 20 years of experience.
"I am a DSA building inspector and I know what I know about this coin."
What a coincidence, I am a DSA building inspector too.
I have been a building inspector for a couple of months and I can tell you that you don't know how to inspect a building.
What does being a building inspector have to do with coins?
I think it was supposed to inspire awe.
@UpGrayed got it. @Mestandard is a troll. He lost control and revealed himself when he replied "I don't wear panties."
But he does and they are in bunch and we know that as well as we know that is a zinc planchet.
Yo bro,tbe people on this Forum know what they are talking about. I trust and value their opinions on anything they say because they have been collecting coins and gathering knowledge about said coins for many many years. Sorry you didn't get the responses you were looking for but you got an education for free and hopefully you learned something today as I learn something new every day here and I have been collecting for 15 years
It didn't work.
Right now the OP is either asking about his coin on another coin forum or listing it on ebay as a rare error.
He has all weekend to milk this before the mods close it down on Mon.
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Don't know if this is the OP, but they seem like a kindred spirit, at least:
I think this thread achieved it's intended purpose.
If you look on the reverse, you can see where the rim was rolled up over the edges of the lettering AFTER it was struck. If it was struck on an undersized planchet, the room would not be raised like that.
It's a damaged cent
You may send it in for certification if you want but it's a waste of $70.
But, not to be a hater, if it comes back as what you think, I will pay DOUBLE the certification costs to you and you will still have the coin.
No one is going to offer anything over face value on a story like this. If you are convinced, then all you can do is send it to PCGS and have it attributed. You will get the same answer you got here for free, but your money, your choice.
Buh bye.
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I hope the OP is better at inspecting buildings than he is at determining what his parking lot finds are. Definitely not a mint error coin in any way
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She knows more about coins than the OP.