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2 guys - 1 card. 1989 UD double back misprints with pictures. Raw and graded (BJ, Nolan Ryan, etc.)

I'm curious how many people have similar cards and if anyone knows for sure or has theories on how common this occurred. Would be nice to have a former UD quality control member on the forum....wishful thinking.

Coincidentally the Bo Jackson / Rey Palacios have similar card numbers 221 / 21.

Another error card are two White Sox players.
The rest of the errors I am not seeing a connection but they may all just be coincidences for each.

I have the BJ error card. Two of them are currently listed on eBay where one of them seems to have more of Rey Palacios's picture/stats with less of Bo and the other has the opposite. Mine is more of a blend of both. It makes me wonder if these errors were sheets which were printed sequentially before being corrected or if these occurred at various intervals (example on separate days/weeks and not in order).

Would PSA still grade these? The graded one isn't too old of a label.

2 guys - 1 card 😜






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  • I forgot to mention there are no holograms on the misprints. Somehow they skipped a step unless these were sheets an employee, or dumpster diver, got ahold of and they cut them themselves.

  • daltexdaltex Posts: 3,486 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited September 5, 2023 10:16PM

    The Manrique is an error (which is what we in the hobby call a recognized variation). The others are printers scrap.

    For example, this card with a HoFer's name prominently spelled wrong is not an error, but a UER.

    There are a small number of print defects that are common enough and collected enough to be considered "errors", notably the 1958 Pancho "Herrer", the 1982 Topps Blackless, and the 1990 Frank Thomas NNOF. PSA grades those.

    The 1975 Yount "puddle"/"no puddle" variety is surprisingly ignored, being a HoF rookie. I have no images, but it's easy enough to find.

    Not my sandbox, but others who play there will no doubt weigh in.

  • countdouglascountdouglas Posts: 2,275 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Top image - no puddle between Yount's legs.

    Bottom images - noticeable puddle between Yount's legs near the Y in his signature.

    Relatively common variation only in the full sized Yount that no one seems to acknowledge. At the very least, I would think that it should garner a PD designation when grading, but there are 9s and 10s with this defect.


  • Thank you both for the information.

    It's odd what I've seen on some labels.

    Billy Ripken seems to have multiple variants. I have seen "Black Box", " Black Scribble" and "White Scribble".

    I also don't understand why the Sam Vincent with Jordan wearing #12 when his jersey was stolen is called out. Anything to increase sales maybe? It seems like a picture with a light burned out on a scoreboard would eventually end up on a label if the GOAT was on the card too.

  • WillymacWillymac Posts: 204 ✭✭✭

    @countdouglas said:
    Top image - no puddle between Yount's legs.

    Bottom images - noticeable puddle between Yount's legs near the Y in his signature.

    Relatively common variation only in the full sized Yount that no one seems to acknowledge. At the very least, I would think that it should garner a PD designation when grading, but there are 9s and 10s with this defect.


    It’s funny that those are called mint errors in coins and carry huge premiums…one day folks will realize this with cards, especially key cards

    1989 Griffey eyelash is on example I am holding out for…

  • It's pretty well known that 1963 Topps has many variations/misprints/errors, including some wrong backs. I recently acquired this card with Haddix on front and Koufax on back and my research indicates it's rare. With rarity a cornerstone of value, and a HOFer like Koufax (Haddix was no slouch) on it, I don't understand why PSA won't grade or authenticate this card, but they will a relatively common variation with less distinguished players. Any thoughts are appreciated.


  • BaltimoreYankeeBaltimoreYankee Posts: 2,900 ✭✭✭✭✭

    That Haddix/Koufax wrong back is really cool. PSA won't grade it but SGC will, and will label it with a 'wrong back' designation.

    Daniel
  • Appreciate the tip.

  • JoeBanzaiJoeBanzai Posts: 11,208 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I sent in a 1974 Killebrew with Ralph Garr stats on back.
    Came back an 8!
    Oh, they just graded it as a Killebrew. Sent it back telling them it was a wrong back, they refused to grade it as such.
    I seem to have seen quite a few 1974 "wrong backs" must have been a pretty big screw up at Topps that year.
    PSA should grade wrong backs as such.
    Might be a good idea to look at the backs of ALL the cards too! 😁

    2013,14 and 15 Certificate Award Winner Harmon Killebrew Master Set and Master Topps Set
  • RonSportscardsRonSportscards Posts: 795 ✭✭✭✭
    edited September 24, 2023 12:57PM

    @Willymac said:
    It’s funny that those are called mint errors in coins and carry huge premiums…one day folks will realize this with cards, especially key cards

    1989 Griffey eyelash is on example I am holding out for…

    I stumbled on one ebay seller yesterday saying exactly that, about his "error" miscut cards.
    That if it had been coins, currency, or stamps, they would be worth a fortune!
    Miscut like this. Looks like this one even has the much desired gum stain. Super rare!

  • WillymacWillymac Posts: 204 ✭✭✭

    There will be a day…coins with “mint errors” like these are incredibly valuable…..

  • craig44craig44 Posts: 10,504 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I wish they would "officially" recognize the Yount Puddle variation. I only learned about it maybe 5 years ago. Seems like it should be significant being it is a HOF rookie card.

    George Brett, Roger Clemens and Tommy Brady.

  • pdoidoipdoidoi Posts: 488 ✭✭✭

    I think the reason that coins and stamps have a much higher value on errors is because the U.S. Government has much higher standards and does it best to not let any errors out into circulation.

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